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Cross The River Burn The Bridge (Mark Steyn On Where We're Headed With Obamacare Alert)
National Review ^ | 12/26/2009 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 12/26/2009 9:54:33 AM PST by goldstategop

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To: Vigilanteman

If we do our job on the election, we can impeach the bastard too. Then a lot of options open up.


41 posted on 12/26/2009 5:15:36 PM PST by Concho
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Exactly how the and why the 60K page joke of a income tax code survives. Exactly how and why Hitler was able to do as he did. The sheople don’t care as long as it’s not them getting the shaft (or worse)


42 posted on 12/26/2009 5:45:49 PM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: crusher

If We the People really want to end the socialist slide then we need to cut off their power source....all their power to vote buy and welfare-rize this country comes from the tax code, withholding and our pockets. We have to vote Conservatives in and then pressure them to get rid of the tax code. Stop feeding the beast.


43 posted on 12/26/2009 5:49:37 PM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: goldstategop
And nations obsessed with Big Government programs are already on the fast track first to decline and then to oblivion. That's the real meaning of Obamacare.

Alinskyites have always been about trying to destroy the welfare state by overloading its obligations.

The problem with destroying the United States has always been that it didn't have enough obligations. The Alinskyites just fixed that, and now ACORN can go to work.

44 posted on 12/26/2009 6:04:22 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
as we’re led off to the rice fields.

I trust that you jest. Surely any such order to report for reducation and labor would violate rule .308, assuming that particular bridge had not already been crossed.

45 posted on 12/26/2009 9:56:33 PM PST by absalom01 (Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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To: only1percent

“The real risk is...”

or to put it another way....

we in the US won’t, IMO, accept and subsequently embrace the Euro model out of some ‘sophisticated’ or semi-enlightened admiration or adulation of our Euro pals.

No, in the US, it will happen out of the brain-dead mass embrace of the nanny state. The propaganda potential is nearly complete.

Not that it really matters: Two roads to the same result.

**Except this**: I believe the transition from late-stage capitalism to socialism will be absolutely wrenching in the US. The Euros were in effect primed for it from the trauma and near total destruction of WW2, and the observation that only a distant benefactor, in this case, the US with the postwar Marshall plan, could rescue them from a few generations of poverty and malaise. Without external aid, he Euros were looking at minimally one or 1.5 generations of poverty before their economies could get back on their feet without external aid.

The question I have is, will the US be brought to that beaten-down stage of destruction? At present, I don’t know. And if it will take something like that amount of time (or less...things happen faster in the US) where do you suppose we are along that timeline? Where, temporally and socio-economically, are we on that timeline to hell?


46 posted on 12/27/2009 12:02:18 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Voters who thought their ship came in with 0bama are on their own Titanic.)
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To: UCANSEE2

In a very real sense it is already too late. The reason this bill had to be passed right away is because gummint revenues are down due to the economy and Medicare is hemorrhaging 10 billion a month in red ink for the last 6 months. The congresscriminals need to comeup with some money to keep Medicare going right now. Instead of coming right out and saying “Medicare was a mistake and we need to fix it” they are trying to put yet another bandaid on it.


47 posted on 12/27/2009 6:39:24 AM PST by wastoute
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