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Michigan Forces Business Owners Into Public Sector Unions
WSJ online ^ | DEC 26, 2009 | PATRICK J. WRIGHT AND MICHAEL D. JAHR

Posted on 12/26/2009 4:23:11 AM PST by radar101

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To: bert
Michigan is a hellhole that must be destroyed

Pretty broad brush. Most of Michigan outside the SE Detroit area is decent, normal and nice. Kind of like saying we should destroy Pennsylvania because of Philadelphia.

41 posted on 12/26/2009 9:46:44 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: cripplecreek

The Dem Mayor did a good thing? That’s surprising - good, but surprising.

If this is being tried in Michigan, we can be sure it will be tried all over the country.

I know - Union dues - forced union dues deductions - are the lifeblood of Unions and the Demonrat”party” (organized crime subset).


42 posted on 12/26/2009 9:47:36 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt (Ronald Reagan: If we ever forget that we're one nation under God,then we'll be a nation gone under.")
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To: jwparkerjr

Never having used one myself i can’t state anything different from the article. The way the article was written and my understanding of the word subsidy,I take away a partial payment from the government to subsidize the end user of the service. If it’s something different then so be it,the article was poorly written.
I for one,while against most everything this current government stands for,don’t think that helping people to keep jobs by helping to pay for someone to watch their children is necessarily a bad thing. The cell phone giveaways are insane. This government does not know where the line between necessity and luxury begins and ends or perhaps simply refuses to acknowledge one exists.


43 posted on 12/26/2009 9:48:17 AM PST by wiggen (Never in the history of our great country have the people had less representation than they do today)
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To: Lakeshark
Most of Michigan outside the SE Detroit area is decent, normal and nice

Glad to hear someone finally say it.....

44 posted on 12/26/2009 10:08:50 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (I want a hoochie-mama for Christmas, only a hoochie-mama will do............)
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To: wiggen

Sorry if I made it sound like you were misusing the word! Absolutely not so. I knew it was a problem with the article, not the poster!

Here in our area there are entire child care centers that are totally run by the funds from this source. This is not a subsidy. It’s welfare, pure and simple.

And not that I’m opposed to the centers. For many of these kids it’s the nearest thing they get to any kind of attention and care. But they are simply another example of using “the children” to extract money from the taxpayer to support a lifestyle the taxpayer has worked to avoid.

Sorry to be cranky right here at Christmas, but I see no end in sight. It gets worse every year and this year seems to have brought the start of socialized medicine.


45 posted on 12/26/2009 10:13:18 AM PST by jwparkerjr
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
Sickening. Maddening. How can this be stopped???

Rudyard Kipling told us how a long time ago in his only science fiction story, As Easy As A.B.C.

The story is set in the year 2065, and the world's only government is the Aerial Board of Control. "The A.B.C., that semi-elected, semi-nominated body of a few score persons, controls the Planet. Transportation is Civilization, our motto runs. Theoretically, we do what we please, so long as we do not interfere with the traffic and all it implies."
Be sure to read his poem "MacDonough's Song" at the link. There is your only answer, Freedom'sWorthIt.

America -- a great idea, didn't last.

46 posted on 12/26/2009 11:34:24 AM PST by Clint Williams (America -- a great idea, didn't last.)
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To: pnh102
She should immediately stop accepting these subsidies. Perhaps then her low income clients will stop voting for liberals who impose these types of restrictions as a result.

Too little, too late. Unless she takes real action, she's screwed.

America -- a great idea, didn't last.

47 posted on 12/26/2009 11:36:05 AM PST by Clint Williams (America -- a great idea, didn't last.)
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To: Apple Blossom
I wonder who sits around all day finding new reasons to “need” a union?

Union bosses and their government cronies.

48 posted on 12/26/2009 11:37:41 AM PST by Clint Williams (America -- a great idea, didn't last.)
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To: MichiganConservative
We’re all socialists now.

America -- a great idea, didn't last.

49 posted on 12/26/2009 11:39:14 AM PST by Clint Williams (America -- a great idea, didn't last.)
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To: radar101

child-care subsidies it sends to her on behalf of her low-income clients

= you accept government money it always comes with strings


50 posted on 12/26/2009 11:39:38 AM PST by kcvl
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To: radar101

Humpty-Dumpty wasn’t an egg, he was a virus.


51 posted on 12/26/2009 11:44:27 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: kcvl
you accept government money it always comes with strings

"strings" cannot possibly mean the diversion of tax dollars to a corrupt criminal enterprise (duh yoonyin) that uses the money to promote... the Democrats who confiscate yet more tax dollars for diversion to the same criminal enterprise. ("There's a loop goin' on out dayya!")

52 posted on 12/26/2009 11:45:45 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

Yeah Dave Bing is a true democrat but hes also a sucessful businessman.


53 posted on 12/26/2009 11:57:10 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: jwparkerjr

You in no way made it sound like i was misusing the word,no apology necessary.I’d imagine it varies (the extent of any subsidy)from state to state and locale to locale. Probably some need based criteria such as school lunch.


54 posted on 12/26/2009 2:06:58 PM PST by wiggen (Never in the history of our great country have the people had less representation than they do today)
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To: Clint Williams

Ok, will check it out.


55 posted on 12/26/2009 6:23:05 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt (Ronald Reagan: If we ever forget that we're one nation under God,then we'll be a nation gone under.")
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
If this is being tried in Michigan, we can be sure it will be tried all over the country.
True, that! Already tried it in Mass one or two (bad memory here) election cycles ago. Ballot initiative question on daycare centers unionizing. It was presented as an optional choice, but it wouldn't remain so long. Politicians' promises in Mass are like farts in a gale.
56 posted on 12/27/2009 4:17:48 AM PST by Peet (<- A.K.A. the Foundling)
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To: Peet

LOL - well did it get defeated on that ballot vote?


57 posted on 12/27/2009 4:41:55 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt (Ronald Reagan: If we ever forget that we're one nation under God,then we'll be a nation gone under.")
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To: radar101
GOD HELP US!

The State of Michigan (Dept of Human Services) colludes with the unions to set up a phony "shell corporation" within the DHS, for the unions to "organize" against, all for the purpose of ripping off 40,000 home-based small businesses to the tune of $3.7 million annually!

With a scheme like this, what distinction remains between the State and organized crime?

It seems like the thought, "Un-f'n-believable!" is running through my head almost constantly. You hardly have a chance to pick your jaw up off the floor before being confronted with the next, once unthinkable, outrage.

So here are the states (the full article reveals it's more than just Michigan) following in the footsteps of the Fed, and just enacting law at will, utterly absent any legislative basis. Indeed California did this exact same thing despite the fact that legislation to unionize day-care workers failed (vetoed by Arnold)!

THIS ALL HAS TO STOP!!!!!!!!!

Here's the org the op-ed writers work for:

http://www.mackinac.org/

More info on the lawsuit they are filing on behalf of the ripped off day-care operators here:

http://www.mackinac.org/11149

58 posted on 12/27/2009 1:41:19 PM PST by Stultis (Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia; Democrats always opposed waterboarding as torture)
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To: radar101
See also:

Stealth Unionization (of home daycare providers in Michigan)
 
12/20/2009 4:36:17 AM PST · by reaganaut1 · 14 replies · 662+ views
Weekly Standard ^ | December 28, 2009 | Patrick J. Wright and Michael D. Jahr
The barren economy of this rustbelt state is weakening the labor movement, but well-connected unions continue to shape Michigan's politics. So it's not surprising that some are willing to take extraordinary measures to help repopulate union ranks--even to the extent of making the state an accessory to a scheme to shanghai more than 40,000 home-based day care entrepreneurs and providers into a government-employee union. This development was first brought to the attention of the Mackinac -Center for Public Policy, where we work, in early 2009, when the center was approached by Sherry Loar, owner of Baby Steps Childcare Center in...

59 posted on 12/27/2009 1:42:39 PM PST by Stultis (Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia; Democrats always opposed waterboarding as torture)
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To: Stultis
With a scheme like this, what distinction remains between the State and organized crime?

None. Absolutely none.

The federal government and states like Michigan no longer have any concept of "serving the people". Instead, the people are obligated to serve the government -- and its annointed cronies.

This is crazy! The measure never would've passed a legislature -- even a Democrat one -- since votes like this could cost a politician his seat. The people never would've voted for it. No elected politician would ever publicly propose such a rip-off.

But a state agency and a union collude to get the job done under cover of darkness...

60 posted on 12/27/2009 2:25:59 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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