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Michigan Forces Business Owners Into Public Sector Unions
WSJ online ^ | DEC 26, 2009 | PATRICK J. WRIGHT AND MICHAEL D. JAHR

Posted on 12/26/2009 4:23:11 AM PST by radar101

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To: wiggen

About 15 years ago my ex wife and I were paying $170 per week for a sitter. That was for 1 child every day all day, one child was split between half days and full days and one child every afternoon.

We both worked and she got child support but we were still eligible for the state aid for child care.


21 posted on 12/26/2009 5:57:20 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: wiggen

These aren’t subsidies! Government pays the entire bill, the parent makes no contribution whatsoever, at least in the preschool programs here in our area. My wife has been a preschool director for over 30 years and every year she has to fight with the church committees not to accept ANY state or federal funding, period. Accept one penny and the controlling starts.

It’s part of the bastardizing the language to cover the true efforts of government and the unions. These are not subsidies, it’s charity, pure and simple. And it’s just tip of the iceberg. It extends to every aspect of their lives, right down to help getting a cell phone!

Sadly there is probably no way to stop the madness now. Too many are 100 percent dependent on the public teat for their every need in life. Take it away and the civil unrest would be tough to control.

Welfare reform was underway at one point, but once the country’s attention turned to another ‘emergency’ it just turned on its heel and went the other way.


22 posted on 12/26/2009 5:59:52 AM PST by jwparkerjr
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To: radar101
The agency thus withholds union dues from the child-care subsidies it sends to her on behalf of her low-income clients.

So, here clients are using some state aid to pay here fees. Thus, the state says she's in their union.

If she doesn't want to be in the union, she might want to consider restructuring her prices or moving to a more affluent neighborhood. Government at all levels needs to be redone.

Maybe you should run for your state legislature.

23 posted on 12/26/2009 6:01:52 AM PST by MichiganConservative (I wouldn't hate the government if it didn't exist. (Evil + Stupid) === Government)
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To: tommyboy

commie bastages!


24 posted on 12/26/2009 6:04:28 AM PST by y6162 (uish..)
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To: Soul of the South

In detroit the teachers union is trying to get teachers to “donate” $10,000 each to prevent layoffs. The fact that the teachers aren’t doing it is a perfect example of what would happen if unions were forced to send around their own collection plate.


25 posted on 12/26/2009 6:05:22 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: radar101

She could just get out of the business.

Then people might have an answer to the question “Why does socialism cause scarcity?”.

We’re all socialists now.


26 posted on 12/26/2009 6:05:36 AM PST by MichiganConservative (I wouldn't hate the government if it didn't exist. (Evil + Stupid) === Government)
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To: 70th Division

“What kind of statement is that? There are real people who live in Michigan.”

I know, I used to get upset when people here talk like that...my father in law, who is a good, decent, hard working conservative, happens to live outside of New Orleans. I get so fed up with people saying “just destroy New Orleans and the scum that lives there.” I’m proud that he’s a school teacher (history!) down there. I hope he reaches through to his students.

Likewise, while I try not to let my soft skin show through, it does hurt when people make blanket statements about DC as well. Yes, there is scum here, but there are also good families here as well. I have a love/hate relationship with the area, but the fact of the matter is...my hubby is in the Army, we are stationed here...I can’t just up and move. :P


27 posted on 12/26/2009 6:07:05 AM PST by Cailleach
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To: jwparkerjr
Take it away and the civil unrest would be tough to control.

Bring it on. I've got my stash of emergency lead rations.

28 posted on 12/26/2009 6:07:18 AM PST by MichiganConservative (I wouldn't hate the government if it didn't exist. (Evil + Stupid) === Government)
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To: bert

come on, i live on the border with two business!

Pray for us who have to stay here, my parents are too old to move. I have to stay here.


29 posted on 12/26/2009 6:11:19 AM PST by sig229 (The loonie left "FLUNKED" human nature 101)
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To: sig229

May God be with you.


30 posted on 12/26/2009 6:12:27 AM PST by bmwcyle (Free the Navy Seals)
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To: cripplecreek

There are other southern Michigan school districts that faced 7% layoffs due to tax revenue declines where the union membership found dozens ready for an early-out and had a 95% vote for a 2% pay cut for their membership which combined prevented teacher cuts in the classroom.

Not all union members are destructive toward their community and their workplace.


31 posted on 12/26/2009 6:17:25 AM PST by KC Burke (...but He has made the trains run on time.)
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To: radar101; All

who *doesn’t* accept or have customers who qualify for some sort of government subsidy?

I’ve been waiting for the feds to draft doctors when we balk about regulations and the threatened 21% Medicare fee cut in 2010 - the one that makes up the bulk of Medicare “savings.”

Doctors, owners of drug stores, grocery stores, section 8 rental houses and apartments. . .


32 posted on 12/26/2009 6:20:43 AM PST by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: radar101
Welcome to the USSA, comrade. Resistance is futile.
33 posted on 12/26/2009 6:41:51 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: KC Burke
Not all union members are destructive toward their community and their workplace.

No. I was in an AFL-CIO affiliated independent union and we had great relations with the company. I made considerably less than my counterparts at GM but I had top notch insurance and the rules were far more flexible than they would be if I had been in a more aggressive union.
34 posted on 12/26/2009 6:57:38 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: wiggen
Suicide by Government

Deserves another bump.

35 posted on 12/26/2009 7:33:29 AM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: radar101

This is one of the most outrageous things I have ever seen.

Not that the state is monkeying with the subsidy payments - what the state giveth, the state can taketh away - but the outright corruption just to funnel government resources to a leech organization that doesn’t actually produce or do anything.

Wow.

I am speechless.

So glad I live in Texas, as opposed to California or Michigan or any of those other states.

Just wow.


36 posted on 12/26/2009 7:45:59 AM PST by jr.ewing.78
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To: Springman; sergeantdave; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; ...
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If you would like to be added or dropped from the Michigan ping list, please freepmail me.

37 posted on 12/26/2009 8:28:21 AM PST by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: pnh102

You are exactly right.


38 posted on 12/26/2009 8:30:01 AM PST by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: cripplecreek

That’s $8,840 a year. I’d say that’s a pretty substantial burden to bear.


39 posted on 12/26/2009 9:40:02 AM PST by wiggen (Never in the history of our great country have the people had less representation than they do today)
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To: 1010RD

Ha. Thanks much


40 posted on 12/26/2009 9:40:48 AM PST by wiggen (Never in the history of our great country have the people had less representation than they do today)
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