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Los Zetas and Mexico's Transnational Drug War
World Politics Review ^ | 12/25/09 | Hal Brands

Posted on 12/25/2009 6:05:40 PM PST by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 12/25/2009 6:05:44 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

This could be over in 30 days if the Mexican govt did just one thing. Announce to the military leadership that if they kill a Zeta they can keep all of the dead Zetas possessions.


2 posted on 12/25/2009 6:27:46 PM PST by crghill (You can't put a condom on your soul. I'm an anti-antinomian.)
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To: nickcarraway; bamahead

The drug war, and much of the violence associated with it would be over tomorrow if we would end our stupid prohibition.

Prohibition fails every time it’s tried. It didn’t work in during the 1920s, and we see it isn’t working now, for the same reasons.


3 posted on 12/25/2009 6:33:00 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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I am not willing to pay for unlimited drugs and healthcares for users, which would happen if those substances were made legal tomorrow.


4 posted on 12/25/2009 6:35:49 PM PST by nickcarraway
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I agree. Prohibition is like clamping down harder and harder the lid of a boiling pot, without even thinking about turning the FIRE down. Eventually, the pot will explode, which is what we are seeing in Mexico and basically all around the world.

Having said that, I am not very certain that legalizatin of all drugs is the answer. Firstly, Mexico and Columbia and many other nations would have to legalize them also, to eliminate the narco-terrorist wars. And a complete reversal of US policy in Columbia and all of Latin America is definitely not going to happen any time soon.

5 posted on 12/25/2009 6:40:13 PM PST by ARepublicanForAllReasons (Give 'em hell, Sarah!)
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To: nickcarraway
"I am not willing to pay for unlimited drugs and healthcares for users, which would happen if those substances were made legal tomorrow."

And you aren't already?

Anyone who wants to do drugs are doing so right now. Whether or not they are legal doesn't matter.

The prohibition artificially inflates the value, and creates a black market for the substances. If legalized and regulated, prices would fall by a substantial amount, and the cost and violence that comes with the drug war would vanish. I'd wager that it would cost FAR less to treat addicts than it's costing us to continue this worthless drug war we are in.

6 posted on 12/25/2009 6:42:53 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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As bad as drug use is this war on drugs is worse. There is so much money involved that thugs run entire countries and hire thug militaries with no ROE. Mexico is just one example.


7 posted on 12/25/2009 6:43:59 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: nickcarraway

Who do you think is paying for it now?


8 posted on 12/25/2009 6:46:55 PM PST by ninonitti
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To: nickcarraway

Simply allowing the home growing of pot in the USA would well and truly yank the rug out from under Zeta. Pot is far from an utterly benign thing, but the prognosis for a heavy pot user who quits is better than the same for alcohol or tobacco.


9 posted on 12/25/2009 6:51:08 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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No, since it is illegal, it is one of the few things that we aren't paying for. (sure they are probably using some food stamps etc. for them)

I have no problem if you end prohibition, after you end the welfare state. George Soros is using the legalization movement to foist universal healthcare on us. I don't want the tail wagging the dog.

10 posted on 12/25/2009 6:51:45 PM PST by nickcarraway
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We aren’t buying tobacco or liquor for them either!


11 posted on 12/25/2009 6:53:43 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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Well, if you’ve ever had your property damaged by people using pot, you pretty much realize that their rights trump your property rights.


12 posted on 12/25/2009 6:56:09 PM PST by nickcarraway
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Same for drunken bums... really, the crime is vandalism and disorderly conduct. Nobody ever put a bottle of Night Train in jail.


13 posted on 12/25/2009 6:58:46 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I’ve seen people buying tobacco, liquor, and lobsters using EBT cards, or whatever they are called.


14 posted on 12/25/2009 6:59:13 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Hey, the police will actually arrest drunks and prosecute them. Drug users have special rights and are better than the rest of us.


15 posted on 12/25/2009 7:00:59 PM PST by nickcarraway
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This madness could end in a heartbeat if the drug war was ended and drugs legalized. However given the fact that so much money is made, none of it taxed, the incentive to do so doesn’t exist. Certainly not in Mexico’s case. Mexico is a society so far removed from the rule of law and the respect for it as to make any attempt at drug legalization impossible. This situation will continue to spiral out of control until a point of critical mass is reached, such as an open and all-out civil war and or the complete and total break-down of what ever normal Mexican society exists.


16 posted on 12/25/2009 7:03:33 PM PST by John-Irish ("Shame of him who thinks of it''.)
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To: nickcarraway

So fix the inequitable treatment.


17 posted on 12/25/2009 7:04:16 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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To: nickcarraway

The retailer software is supposed to catch these abuses of welfare grocery cards. (I have never understood what anybody ever saw in lobster. To me it’s like eating a cockroach, only prettier.)


18 posted on 12/25/2009 7:06:14 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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To: nickcarraway

“Most are bought legally in the United States and smuggled across the border.”

This is a Recurring LIE!

But I Guess I am getting Used to It.


19 posted on 12/25/2009 7:16:10 PM PST by bravotu (Have a Nice Day !)
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I don’t believe the government should be in the business of health care either.


20 posted on 12/25/2009 7:17:15 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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