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How George W. Bush Redefined American Freedom
Campaign for Liberty ^ | 2009-12-24 | James Bovard

Posted on 12/24/2009 5:02:20 PM PST by rabscuttle385

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To: DakotaRed

Those of us who respect the Constitution
also know tht it was written when it took weeks for the enemy to reach the United States.
Now it takes Minutes.

We are fighting an enemy who is already here.
Just weeks ago, one killed over 30 at Ft. Hood.


121 posted on 12/24/2009 8:48:49 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: DakotaRed; Bokababe; sickoflibs
Unless, you enjoy seeing American school children dodging IED’s in the way to school.

The 2009 equivalent of "Unless, you enjoy seeing mushroom clouds over American cities," eh?

No, you’d rather wait until more are here, more are amassed on our borders and our streets are bloody.

Flashback to Christmas '06...

DUI illegal kills Marine home on leave from Iraq
"It's more anger than anything," Cpl. Garrett Farris, 21, of Texas, told the Baltimore Examiner. "A guy goes to war and has no problems with that. He comes back to the States, and it's supposed to be our safe place."

It's laughable how you're so concerned about the borders, yet you defend a RINO who tried to ram amnesty for illegally-present foreign nationals, i.e., an invitation to foreign nationals everywhere to come on in, down the throats of ordinary Americans, citizens and lawfully-present aliens alike.

122 posted on 12/24/2009 8:48:56 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Purge the RINOs! * http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: IrishCatholic

I’m with you brother. I spent my year in Iraq and can tell you that GWB was a hero to the Kurds and to most of the troops there. We knew he cared, we knew he would get us what we needed and wouldn’t d—k around for 3 months trying find his a$$ with both hands and a map. As far as these arm chair RINO intellectuals, i can tell you waxing eloquent don’t get the job done. Oh yeah, they also might want to learn to spell so their “intellect” won’t automatically be called into question.


123 posted on 12/24/2009 8:53:13 PM PST by eaglesiniowa ((Hope is not a course of action))
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To: DakotaRed

1. I have never been to the DU site, or anything like it. Have you?
2. Go Navy, Beat Army! Again!
3. You have a “notion of just walking away”? Not me. I will always have your back.
4. Never voted for or supported Ron Paul.
5. I never specifically tore down the GOP. I will vote for the candidate that most closly resembles our Founding Fathers. Just like you and the rest of this brotherhood. I don’t want a 3rd party. I want the GOP to wake up.
6. What do you or any of us really know of Bush or anyone at that level. Let’s get real. You’re my hero - everyone honest one here is.


124 posted on 12/24/2009 8:54:01 PM PST by 3boysdad (If you respond to my post without a profile I will claim you on my tax return.)
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To: Bokababe

am sure you know puny well.


125 posted on 12/24/2009 8:58:07 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: avacado

And oh by the way there was some enriched uranium found that was chronicled one day in the media. Further, i saw with my own eyes a rocket and explosives facility with very sophisticated chemical munitions labs built by the Germans (lots of paraphernalia labeled in German) - luckily the facility was blown up early in the war. I have no doubts the scumbag SH was getting ready to do some dirty deeds. Most of the stuff was scarfed up early in the war by our folks but enough remained to prove to me that this was bad stuff. My only problem with GWB was that he had the goods and he didn’t show it.


126 posted on 12/24/2009 9:05:49 PM PST by eaglesiniowa ((Hope is not a course of action))
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To: doc; rabscuttle385; Admin Moderator

doc, I diagnose you as severely confused if not delusional. Or maybe your memory’s just not as good as you remember. Go back and look at Valerie and Joe, again - start with their Vanity Fair article.

rabscuttle, You’re not sane, yourself, if you find it necessary to give a flash back to November, 2006 on this Christmas Eve. How’s the Dem majority working out for you — you elected Obama as surely as you if you’d hit his chad.

Mod, do we have to put up with this stuff?


127 posted on 12/24/2009 9:07:57 PM PST by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: Sudetenland
Bush gets an A+ on the WOT..You could tell he loved the troops and would get them what they needed...

I think he is an honest down to earth man. But on domestic policy, immigration never using his veto pen on spending etc he stunk.

He kept us safe for 8 years, didn't take long for Obama to have another attack on our soil and he doesn't give a damn. Bush loved American and the citizens,but was far from perfect on the domestic front...

128 posted on 12/24/2009 9:09:38 PM PST by goat granny
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To: eaglesiniowa
My only problem with GWB was that he had the goods and he didn’t show it.

Exactly! Why is that?

129 posted on 12/24/2009 9:10:49 PM PST by 3boysdad (If you respond to my post without a profile I will claim you on my tax return.)
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To: hocndoc; doc; Admin Moderator
How’s the Dem majority working out for you — you elected Obama as surely as you if you’d hit his chad.

I didn't elect Obama, since I neither campaigned for him nor voted for him.

I can't really say the same for McCain, at least, on the first of the two counts, however.

"I have to tell you, [Obama] is a decent person, a person that you
do not have to be scared [of] as president of the United States."

U.S. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, 10 OCT. 2008

"I think the Democratic Party is a fine party, and I have
no problems with it, in their views and their philosophy."

U.S. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, 02 APR. 2004


130 posted on 12/24/2009 9:16:00 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Purge the RINOs! * http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: Theodore R.

Stupid comment. Bush didn’t run in 2008.

If Ron Paul weren’t a failure, maybe he’d be President. Better yet, if any of the Libertarians were a success, maybe they’d be able to win at least one of the 500+ offices in the House or the Senate.

No, the Libertarians are losers who find it necessary to blame everyone else for their failures.

Libertarians didn’t learn a thing from the disaster that resulted from refusing to “vote for the lesser of two evils” in 2006. Your failure elected Pelosi and Reid as Speaker of the House and Majority leader in the Senate. Your “leaders’” failure made way for the Acorn votes in 2008. Your lack of success elected Obama to the White House and gave the Dems overwhelming majorities in the House and the Senate.


131 posted on 12/24/2009 9:16:42 PM PST by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: rabscuttle385
Tom Ridge reflected the attitude of the Bush administration when he announced, "Liberty is the most precious gift we offer our citizens." If freedom is a gift from the government to the people, then government can take freedom away at its pleasure.

On March 1999, presidential candidate George W. Bush declared during a press conference, "There ought to be limits to freedom."

132 posted on 12/24/2009 9:16:50 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Governement should be afraid of the people)
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To: eaglesiniowa

God bless you and your family. Merry Christmas and thank you for your service.


133 posted on 12/24/2009 9:17:31 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: hocndoc; Theodore R.
No, the Libertarians are losers who find it necessary to blame everyone else for their failures.

You may want to ease up on the projection.

134 posted on 12/24/2009 9:18:55 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Purge the RINOs! * http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker; Bokababe; sickoflibs; mkjessup
On March 1999, presidential candidate George W. Bush declared during a press conference, "There ought to be limits to freedom."

You are correct.

Quote:

When asked at a news conference in May what he thought about the site, Bush let loose, saying it was produced by a "garbage man" and suggesting that "there ought to be limits to freedom"--a line Bush's online critics have vowed to never let the world forget.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPcap/1999-11/29/002r-112999-idx.html

135 posted on 12/24/2009 9:20:47 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Purge the RINOs! * http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: SoCalPol

Yes, you have some enemy here and whole lot more over there.

There are no fool proof methods of sealing the borders, althugh I agree, more needs to be done.

How do you propose placing restrictions on some that doesn’t restrict all?

I thought you all were preaching about how the Patriot Act took liberties away from us all?

This isn’t teh first multi-front war ever.

If you really want it to end, why not work to remove those rediculous ROE’s?

Let our Troops do their job, oppose restrictions on them and let them do what we train them to do.


136 posted on 12/24/2009 9:21:16 PM PST by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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To: Lando Lincoln
GWB was, and is, a very principled man who placed country over self, over legacy. I miss him, and I thank God he was ours following 911.

How do you know he was a very principled man?

Do you know him, personally?

Or, do you believe this because of what you saw in his public persona?

What, exactly, did he do to protect America following 9/11?

We know he did nothing to prevent invaders from crossing the borders during his eight years in office. In fact, he ordered the INS to stand down on border and interior immigration enforcement.

137 posted on 12/24/2009 9:22:29 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Governement should be afraid of the people)
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To: Lando Lincoln

>> GWB was, and is, a very principled man

The gratuitous attacks on Dubya are symptomatic of hysteria, and misplaced contempt.

Every word spent deriding Bush is one word not spent deriding the Commies. Take this thought one step further and you’ll get sense how I feel about the Bush bashing.


138 posted on 12/24/2009 9:22:43 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: IrishCatholic

and right back at you.


139 posted on 12/24/2009 9:26:27 PM PST by eaglesiniowa ((Hope is not a course of action))
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To: sickoflibs

The article is almost completely right on. obama is just bush on steroids. bush did terrible damage to the Republican party, on top of squandering the incredible opportunity of 2000.
Love live Ron Paul and traditional conservatism! Invite the world and invade the world is not conservatism, but rather globalist liberalism. Remember the very important issue of “Democrat wars”? bush sure fubared that as a Republican issue...
If we are fighting them there, so we don’t have to fight them here, why did duhbya insist on continuing to bring them here? Why must our brave men fight the hajis over there, only to come home to suffer from and be murdered by hajis here? Why did duhbya trade an increase in Saudi oil production for 15,000 more Saudi Arabian students (ummmm... After 9/11, why are there any Saudi Arabian students here?) On that note, when Saudi Arabians attacked us on 9/11 (you know, none of the highjackers were from Iraq or Afghanistan), why didn’t we declare war (Oh. Declaring war is part of fighting a war to win - just check our win/loss/draw record on declared vs undeclared wars) on Saudi Arabia? Did we attack Brazil and Peru (because they have large expatriate Japanese populations) when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, while at the same time leaving Japan alone?
Isn’t it great that the bushbots gave obama and his communist scum the “patriot act”? It isn’t popular in here, but the Nazis didn’t enact gun registration in Germany. A moronic government in the ‘20s already had. The Nazis just used the registration information to send the brownshirts to the doors of those who had guns. When the greenshirts come to haul away bushbots on obama’s legal orders under the “patriot act” (after some real or contrived “incident”), the bushbots will ask (in the classic Solzhenitsyn way): “Me? What for?”


140 posted on 12/24/2009 9:27:21 PM PST by antidhimmi (The queasy quadrafecta of Bush, Klinton, Bush, and Obama is our undoing.)
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