Posted on 12/23/2009 12:40:29 AM PST by myknowledge
Wow. There are two really clear things from this story.
1. In the short term I’m thankful for what the Chinese did. Copenhagen could have been a disaster for the American economy and standard of living. But on the other hand...
2. This is the watershed moment in history where the “American Century” ended and the “Chinese Century” began. The Chinese now have the economic muscle and unlike America of 1909, the Chinese have plans right now on how to use it for their own ends. We have been deliberately and publicly humiliated in the international arena, and worse, appear utterly powerless to do anything about it.
The ignorant 53% of the American voters were too stupid to realize what they were doing in November 2008. Thanks. Thanks a lot.
I too seriously doubt the Chinese wrecked this ridiculous meeting. If so, then my hat’s off to them. More likely, however, is that the “Blame Bush” crowd simply needs an international scapegoat to blame, and they’ve settled on “Blame China”. Thus the Chinese now fulfill the role of an international “Bush” for the blamers.
If on the other hand the Chinese really did wreck this conference, what does that say about their relative power in the world compared to the U.S., U.K., and EU? Could, for instance, Uganda, have wrecked the climate talks? I don’t think so. So, either China is now the world’s economic leader or it is the latest scapegoat for the lame left. Take your pick.
(BTW, isn’t the “blame China” game sweetly ironic, given the adoration with which the leftests worship Mao?)
They also have a lot to lose if 0bozo crashes our economy with hyper-inflation and they end up getting back twenty cents on the dollar in buying power on the T-bills they bought. I think they're treading carefully in some ways so they can apply pressure when and where it counts for them.
Also, evil and brutal or not, the Chinese are not comfortable with standing on an absurd and neurotic premise like Glowbull Whining TheoryTM. They see the pragmatic problem with that. It could all fall apart* at any time and anyone holding the bag when it does is SOL.
ROTFLOL Best new pseudonym for 0bummer in six months!
We're on the same page. See my post #63.
And then there are those of us who, when being serious, see it as simply a matter of choice. Liberals/Progressives/communists choose to ignore reality to further their power grab agenda. China, India and others choose to recognize reality and preserve their economic security in a rational manner.
0bummer had a real job once. Scooping ice cream.
Now he just shovels BS. So he is the First Pooper Scooper.
Go Bo!
Isn't it interesting that Brazil, the world's leading producer of ethanol from sugar cane, has no illusions about building a robust economy without massive quantities of petroleum!
Even that enviro-Star, Thuggo Chavez, depends solely on black gold to feed his regime. Too bad for his people that he feeds them with half-arsed Russian military equipment instead of actual food.
My reading of this is that the Chinese did everything they could to prevent that from happening. Wen Jinbao was wisely making himself unavailable while the drama queens, ie the third-world begging-cup dictators and the hoaxter scientists, played out their farcical tragi-comedy on stage.
In classic oriental style the Chinese, as serious players, were waiting and working behind the scenes in order to come in and close the deal/s at the end with the other high-stakes competitors.
But 0fullofhimself screwed that pooch. He publically pressed the Chinese, who continued to try and broker their position privately, now with an urgency and a need to do it without the U.S., and 0postturtle took it personally and crashed their meet in a public way.
He humiliated the Chinese Premiere and scotched whatever arrangements they were making with Brazil, India and South Africa. (or maybe not) An arrangement the U.S. could have been in on if not for the leftist position we now take made a thousand times worse by 0bungler's Messiah complexed ego.
I admit that's reading between the lines but I think it's plausible. Wen Jinbao wouldn't show any personal feelings unless the party back home wanted him to on behalf of the regime.
Exactly!!
Americans are starting to wake up and are not buying the "blame everyone else" bit.
China and India had an opportunity to accept a portion of the 100 Billion a year bride proposed by our great Hillary. A proposal made to try and save face for the great 0.
It didn't work.
So yes, blame big China instead of blaming our Climate Change Religion zealots for this BS conference in the first place.
No doubt the Washington and Britain are hell bent on destroying their countries from within.
100 Billion didn't work, wonder what they will offer next time to bride nations in helping destroy the USA?
If someone owed you a lot of money, and you knew they were gutting their own business and heading for bankruptcy, would you loan them some more to pay you a bribe? lol
You hit it on the head. LOL
India wanted no part of it as well.
They have a vested interest in stopping the U.S. from committing fanatical suicide or they will never get their loans repaid.
Brazil and Venezuela are two leftist nations where enviro-wackos will get zero traction. Both nations will extract oil and other resources any darn way they please
It’s the wimpy developed nation that have a left-environmentalist alliance full of global warming dolts and polar bear lovers who think they are going extinct. Not so in the 3rd world
After all, one reason tyrannical states do that is because the general populations in socialist states have no real loyalty to the state and must be kept quiet with at least a minimal subsistence living.
Praise Gaia and pass my party membership card it's off to the strip mine I go!
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