[Theodore R.]

That’s right, the Europeans, the role model for so many uninformed Americans today, have never considered rolling back their popular socialist programs.

[supremedoctrine]

ANother great and unarguable post, this one from the founder of Free Republic.....there have been many posts,
many, many posts over the last year that have included
the phrase “It’s time to.....”
Yes, it’s time to.
It’s time to.
It’s PAST time to.
What happened to the December 15th DC Demonstration?
It barely registered, either on the MSM or Cable.
Until we agree to figure a way to do something that’s never
been done before, we will be slowly dragged into this New World in the Making, over a LOOOOOONNNNG period of time, by this Administration.Don’t think that because Copenhagen proved to be a bumbling farce, that that constitutes any kind of a “victory”.
It is TIME, for ONE THING.
And that ONE THING is HOW TO SHUT THEM DOWN!!
PERMANENTLY!
Any ideas that involve ACTION?????
I will say it again.......
Any ideas that involve ACTION????
I am saying nothing more radical that a dozen or more
hosts or substitute hosts on Talk Radio are saying EVEN AS I TYPE THIS!

[Southbound]

Just a thought.....Sarah Palin left office in Alaska because of numerous harassing lawsuits (ethics & anything else they could find) filed against her; would it be possible to start some of the same things against some of the corrupt members of the Senate and House? I know some states protect their elected officials from that, apparently Alaska doesn’t, but would the threat of that do any good with this socialist agenda with this bunch? If they wind up having to defend their actions, would it slow down or deter the more noxious parts of it? Just askin’.

[sickoflibs]

There is an huge irony here. Obama,Pelosi and Reid now have to fight off a liberal revolt over the personal mandates without the public plan, tax increases on unions, no anti-trust law. Obama ran against mandates in the Dem primary, Hillary proposed them, not popular with democrats (unless it's slavery to the federal government ~ public plan/single payer.) .

Liberals see this as being sold into slavery to Health Insurance companies(this is the irony), some want to revolt and others are saying it's more important to pass anything now and fix it later. There is a liberal civil war going on now and they have the holidays for things to boil over.(dems are not having a happy Christmas)

They see this compromise as another TARP, just more taxpayer money to the powerful corporations. And that the Democrat party sold them out. Obama sold them out. Keep asking liberals why the Health Insurance stocks are up. It's killing them.

[A Navy Vet]

Of course I agree with everything you say above. However, how do we stop or reverse such perversion of our rightful Heritage?

You and many others of late have given much of your own time and monies, and I sincerely applaud you all. Some of us have done so before, and to the same negative end result. Since those public and political efforts are paying little returns, what do we do now?:

More protests? Okay, if you can muster some "millions" on the Capitol steps, with a significant number willing to be arrested for simple civil disobedience (no violence), then again, negative result. If not, the boys in DC don't care about TEA Parties. Deal with that fact. And why aren't you folks thinking about protesting outside the homes of your representatives? Why is there no movement for that, within legal means?

More Internet talk about Revolution from couch potatoes? Just stupid - ain't gonna happen.

USSC hopes? Good luck with that. The Supremes long ago decided that the "commerce" and "general welfare" clauses include anything and everything (even intra-state in some decisions). They hate to reverse themselves.

So what's left? I submit:

STATE NULLIFICATION! A couple of states have already signed into law that any weapons manufactured and sold within those States are not subject to the "commerce clause". There has been NO repercussions as yet -- think about that!. Other States are looking at passing the same type laws.

In accordance, We The People, should take a position to support States' Rights and support ANY State that will just say NO to obama,reid,pelosi health care and other unConstitutional mandates!

It can be legally argued forever about the "commerce clause" and the "general welfare" clause and never come to agreement. Although, those of us who have read the Founding Fathers' papers know what they meant.

In the end, it comes down to the 9th and 10th Amendments that negate any such arguements. As any first year law student knows, "amendments" to a contract supersede the targeted specifics within said contract. The United States Constitution is a contract between the individual States.

STATE NULLIFICATION VIA THE 9TH AND 10TH AMENDMENTS! There is NO ambiguity regarding that part of our societal compact. There is NO spin; NO parsing; NO modern interpretation. Those (2) Amendments are clear in their meaning.!

[GeronL]

but still we will fight.