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Taunton second-grader suspended over drawing of Jesus
Taunton Gazette ^ | Dec. 15, 2009

Posted on 12/15/2009 6:50:21 AM PST by Alistair Stratford IV

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To: Suz in AZ
It irritates the crap out of me when people expect us to know which state or even country this is in.

As if it matters whether it's Taunton, Mass or Taunton, England? The fact remains that some pinhead teacher has misconstrued the phrase that the Constitution guarantees us "Freedom OF religion" as "Freedom FROM religion". And, technically, even that phrase isn't what's in the Constitution, but close enough for discussion purposes.

The one line that really put a kink in my colon was the "advocate" stating: "They weren’t looking at the fact that this is an 8-year-old child with special needs" as a reason for her involvement.

Is she inferring that if this was a "normal" 8-year-old from Bridgewater or North Easton (nice areas nearby), she wouldn't be involved??? If that's her position, I would tell the parents of this kid to tell HER to take her condescending attitude and jump in the Taunton River!

41 posted on 12/15/2009 7:51:34 AM PST by ssaftler (Elfaba-ma: The Wicked Warlock of the West)
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To: jroneil
This is how they make sissy boys.
I use to draw war pictures all the time. We played army We also wrestle with each other Sword fights with sticks
Did we hurt each other sometimes but that was part of going up!

When society decided it was wrong for kids to play those games they took away a valuable learning experience from children. It is the same thing with competition on the playground (tag, kick ball, dodge ball, etc)

This is where we used to learn to deal with the hard knocks in life. Instead these kids are sent out into the world without the experience and the emotional maturity to deal with the hard lessons in life.

As to the drawing, I can understand why it drew the attention of the teacher. BUT, after talking with the parents who told of their visit to the La Salette Shrine it should have been the end of it.

Of course it goes without saying the teacher should have asked about it in a non-threatening way "That is interesting Johnny, how does that remind you of Christmas." She may have learned about the visit to the shrine herself.

42 posted on 12/15/2009 7:54:23 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Alistair Stratford IV

Not to defend the actions of the school but the article says that the boy wrote his name above the cross.

If he wrote his name in the place that usually read “INRI” (and which, perhaps, has been blurred for the child’s privacy on the image we have of his drawing,) THAT might be cause for some concern.

If so, the school still overreacted and handled things horribly.


43 posted on 12/15/2009 8:05:48 AM PST by fullchroma (Obama: GET OUT OF MY DOCTOR'S OFFICE!)
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To: ssaftler

I think she may be inferring that as a special needs child, making changes in classes like a suspension and making requirements like an psychological evaluation are the types of interventions that cannot be done unilaterally.

These actions were a violation of the rights of this child under special education mandates so that he is not subject to discrimination (like what occurred here).

To change a special education child’s schedule and to require an evaluation without a formal meeting that requires adherence to specific steps designed to protect the child is a clear violation. Such a meeting done properly would include a team of parents, teachers, and special education folks done with certain mandated safeguards was a violation of this child’s rights.

Perhaps the school could make a case for suspension if it assumed the child was a danger but the evaluation requirement done apart from the normal process for a special ed kid is inexcusable.


44 posted on 12/15/2009 8:13:58 AM PST by Raycpa
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45 posted on 12/15/2009 8:14:10 AM PST by pillut48 ("Stand now. Stand together. Stand for what is right."-Gov.Sarah Palin, "Going Rogue")
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To: fullchroma
THAT might be cause for some concern.

Not to a Christian because we realize that our name is on that cross.

46 posted on 12/15/2009 8:16:27 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: Alistair Stratford IV

No wonder the kid drew a picture of him shooting the teacher. Someday the idiots who vote in these liberal states are going to realize that if they come after your neighbor’s child for something they don’t believe in, it’s just a matter of time before they come after everybody.

On the Jesus picture, the teacher was probably too damned dumb to know that Jesus actually DID die on the cross.


47 posted on 12/15/2009 8:22:55 AM PST by Terry Mross (Is it racist if it's true?)
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To: Raycpa
These actions were a violation of the rights of this child under special education mandates so that he is not subject to discrimination (like what occurred here).

There, corrected your sentence. My point is, I don't give a rat's a$$ if the child is special needs or not. This is a clear cut case of religious discrimination, regardless of whether the student in question is a senior at Boston Latin or a 3rd grader in MLK Elementary School in the middle of Harlem!

48 posted on 12/15/2009 8:41:39 AM PST by ssaftler (Elfaba-ma: The Wicked Warlock of the West)
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To: Alistair Stratford IV

safety protocols were violated. HUH?

how much is that superintendent paid, I wonder? probably sends her kids to a private school. she should be sacked along with what ever school officials who support this farce.

wouldn’t want them around ‘violent’ children, now would we?


49 posted on 12/15/2009 8:42:48 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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To: ssaftler

I agree but it is far easier to use the stick of special education than Christian discrimination, especially when those you are up against think Christians are dangerous.


50 posted on 12/15/2009 8:46:07 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: ssaftler
This is a clear cut case of religious discrimination...

Yep, and lawsuits should be filed against everyone involved - teacher, principal, superintendent and school district. Until these creatures are targeted for their vicious abuses against children and have to pay for them personally, they won't stop.

And in addition to money, they all should have to undergo religious sensititivity training and psychological evaluations to determine if they have a specific hatred for Christians.

51 posted on 12/15/2009 8:54:35 AM PST by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Suz in AZ; stephenjohnbanker; ssaftler

If freepers are going to discuss current events in the liberal world, perhaps we need a special page with links to maps of the east coast (and the pacific coast).

Yea, that Taunton is right across the border from Providence, RI.


52 posted on 12/15/2009 9:11:36 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

it is 35 miles from Providence. So I need to refresh my SE MA geography, too.


53 posted on 12/15/2009 9:14:25 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Thank you, suh!


54 posted on 12/15/2009 9:19:52 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: Alistair Stratford IV

Transferring to another school is not the solution. Get your kids out of the school system altogether and sue the principal who required the evaluation. Even if you lose, it makes their lives expensive and painful.

The boy has learned NOT to draw Jesus. That’s exactly what the school wanted.

The school needs to “learn” not to behave like this. Only pain and money will do that.


55 posted on 12/15/2009 9:44:00 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Raycpa
I agree but it is far easier to use the stick of special education than Christian discrimination

Sorry, I disagree. If this was an eight-year-old child of the Negro race, should we use the race card instead of religious discrimination because it is "far easier"? Why do you insist on downplaying the true nature of the problem (i.e. anti-religion) for ancillary issues that do nothing but enhance the agenda of the secular progressives?

56 posted on 12/15/2009 9:51:13 AM PST by ssaftler (Elfaba-ma: The Wicked Warlock of the West)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

...and about 15 miles from my hometown of Brockton, which is a nice place to have come from, but not necessary to be in at this time!


57 posted on 12/15/2009 9:52:48 AM PST by ssaftler (Elfaba-ma: The Wicked Warlock of the West)
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To: Huck

They still play it...in my kids’ CATHOLIC school, LOL. I saw one of those crucifix thingies in the auditorium last night when I went to see my daughter in the choir’s presentation of ‘A Christmas Carol.’ I think I might require some intense therapy after being exposed to those things the last 36 years :P


58 posted on 12/15/2009 9:57:41 AM PST by Hoosier Catholic Momma (Arkansas resident of Hoosier upbringing--Yankee with a southern twang)
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To: allmendream

The X’s part was speculation by Toni Saunders, a representative of the boy and his father, and not connected to the school system. So, we really don’t know why the drawing was considered violent. Crucifixion is a method of killing a person, and even in the process is quite violent. Saying that the X’s in the eyes was the problem would mean that a picture of a person pointing a gun at another person is not a problem until the drawing depicts the weapon having been discharged and the target killed. Since at the end of the article it mentions the boy who ran foul of the school system for a drawing of him pointing a gun at his teacher, the X’s and death reasoning falls apart rather quickly.


59 posted on 12/15/2009 10:09:52 AM PST by FourPeas (Why does Professor Presbury's wolfhound, Roy, endeavour to bite him?)
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To: ssaftler

When it is my kid, I use whatever I can to set things straight. I’m not going to use my kid to make a statement.


60 posted on 12/15/2009 11:36:00 AM PST by Raycpa
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