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Killing the Currency
The American Conservative ^ | 12/14/09 | Robert Murphy

Posted on 12/14/2009 9:00:16 AM PST by FromLori

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To: Candor7
Look at the bright side, when the developing nations get the Obama-dollars for Climate Change reparations they will find out no developed country will take them.

April Fool! "Hope and Change"=worthless US government IOUs like California.

21 posted on 12/14/2009 1:28:21 PM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: FromLori
To impose the entire package on an economy that is mired in the worst postwar recession, is a recipe for disaster.

Duh. Which is exactly what conservatives should want to happen. Socialism never works; not Russia, not here. The sooner this mofo blows up, the sooner we can get working on USA 2.0.

22 posted on 12/14/2009 1:32:05 PM PST by semantic
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To: FromLori
Clearly the U.S. government will be incurring massive new debts in the years to come.

Wrong. The USA as we currently know it won't be around in a few years to incur "massive debt". Forget secession, armed rebellion, tax parties, etc. It all comes down to money, specifically, who has the ability to coin & regulate commerce.

When states begin to issue their own script (configured in whatever fashion necessary to circumvent Constitutional prohibitions) in earnest during 2010, primarily for inter-state transactions such as state income, property, sales & vehicle taxes, then we'll finally begin down the road towards de-federalization.

The next big step will individual state repudiation of the $50 trillion or so of federal debt & unfunded liabilities like S/S, Medicare, etc. When no one is left to pay, the paper contracts they are written upon will have the same value as Confederate money.

USA 1.0 is going to end not with a bang, but with a whimper. The reformation of USA 2.0 will very similar to the 1st version, in that it will be a voluntary association of sovereign states aligned to provide common defense, etc.

23 posted on 12/14/2009 1:40:31 PM PST by semantic
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To: FromLori
Only a fraction—typically around 10 percent—needs to be held “on reserve” to back up the $100 balance of the original depositor.

Wrong. With the repeal of Glass-Steagal, the investment banking sides of commercial banks are allowed leverage up around 50:1. Even better, with US taxpayers on the hook for AIG, both US & Euro banks can leverage even higher, but still meet int'l Basel II capital requirements, with the help of CDS.

The banks are levered so highly, that even an increase of 1-2 pts in interest rates will destroy their MBS portfolios to the tune of $1T plus. Thus, the Fed will ALWAYS print the necessary dollars to corner the entire market for both Treasuries and GSE (agency) paper to keep rates between 2-5%.

24 posted on 12/14/2009 1:47:02 PM PST by semantic
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To: FromLori
Obama's-Wiemar-Republic-via-the-Zimbabwe-offramp ping.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

25 posted on 12/14/2009 1:52:11 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: semantic
Socialism never works; not Russia, not here. The sooner this mofo blows up, the sooner we can get working on USA 2.0.

I like you.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

26 posted on 12/14/2009 2:09:35 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: sickoflibs
How about the positive benefits of a worthless dollar ? :1) Illegals won't be able to come here to send money home, 2) companies will flee to USA for cheap labor, 3) We will feel rich as our houses will be worth millions (can we refinance each month instead of working?)

Ok! Thanks for looking on the bright side, sickoflibs!

27 posted on 12/14/2009 2:33:44 PM PST by MaggieCarta (We're all Detroiters now.)
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