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NRA to Firearms Freedom Act supporters: You're on your own
National Gun Rights Examiner ^ | December 9, 2009 | David Codrea

Posted on 12/09/2009 2:37:47 PM PST by Still Thinking

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To: Still Thinking
Ok.

All the federal alphabet soup agencies show up to arrest the guy from Montana who built a machine gun.

The local state authorities will do nothing, or will be arrested also. Or if things get real stupid, shot.

Remember, Jackson had control of the executive branch of the Federal Government. The state of Montana (or any of the other states that have passed similar measures) does not. They do not even have the power to tell the EPA to shut up, much less the BATF.

41 posted on 12/11/2009 3:07:26 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Still Thinking

The NRA resembles the RNC too much these days. All mouth and no spine.


42 posted on 12/11/2009 4:07:21 PM PST by Ron H. (I believe in and practice the 4 Gs : God, Guns, Guts and Garden and OBTW, Obama LIES.)
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To: RanGreHad
Interesting point, but remember that the feds have control over interstate highways and could prevent firearms, parts, or ammo being shipped into, say, Montana. When Glocks, Sigs, etc., become impossible to buy or repair, FFL holders will press for a settlement, lest they go out of business.

I thought the point of the new laws in those 2 states was that if ALL components were made in state and NOT imported in or out of the affected states would be exempt from coverage of or enforcement by the feds, aka BATA.

43 posted on 12/11/2009 4:12:50 PM PST by Ron H. (I believe in and practice the 4 Gs : God, Guns, Guts and Garden and OBTW, Obama LIES.)
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To: Ron H.; RanGreHad

I think he’s saying that’s what the feds would do in retaliation should any state try to make this stick.


44 posted on 12/11/2009 7:40:59 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Shooter 2.5
goa = AWOL

Oh I forgot its ‘ole 2.5, the GOA hating NRA member…

Here is a thread where you spewed your typical, and not very enlightened, rant without listening to a word someone else says… Typical 2.5 whining rant about the GOA.

and here you are in another thread and using your typical whining rant with me… 2.5 gets the real facts and then gets caught in a couple of, well let’s say factual distortions.

...and after getting your butt severely kicked to the curb, you then resorted to distortions, twisting everyone’s words and then out right lying about your actions in attempting to defend your weak bias.

Many people have answered your stupid questions MANY times; you just refuse to see it. Point is if you can’t have an honest debate fighting a common enemy, then do everyone else a favor… stay on the sidelines and argue with yourself, don’t try to distort the focus of this fight.

Every 2A group, no matter what you may think of them should be WELCOMED to the struggle we are facing, many former NRA members, myself included, who definitely have no love for the NRA leadership have been going back into the group because the stakes are so high, don’t let your petty bias cloud the big picture.

AOV sends with warmest regards.

45 posted on 12/12/2009 3:11:37 PM PST by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: Shooter 2.5

thanks for making my point sonny. 75 members.....and not ONE objects to grover norquist sitting??? NOT ONE!!!!? quite a pro American group you shill for young man. married to a muslim, founder of the anti-American, ‘islamic institute’, major fund raiser, agenda setter and lobbyist for the muslim terrorist front group that is active in seeking the destruction of our country from within, C.A.I.R, (C.A.I.R, our times 1930’s German type bund organization that is prob. before your time also), grover norquist would not have been able to set within one foot of the nra when it was what it was, let alone sit. you should be ashamed of yourself for pushing an organization who is ‘in bed with’, (another oldster term, you might not know that one either), anti American forces, ie: grover norquist and his fellow terrorists. the nra was once GREAT,.... before your time again. they are nothing more now than another liberal style cash cow. 75 BM and not one has outted this bastard norquist???...over YEARS??! I also do not care if you have ever served or your family members have ever served, not one iota...means nothing whatsoever...that has nothing to do with the fall into liberal hell that the nra has sunk to. yep, quite a group you push sonny..


46 posted on 12/13/2009 8:03:28 PM PST by bobby.223
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To: Still Thinking

Federal Agencies only operate within any State WITH THEIR PERMISSION. Rescind All contracts,agreements... with Fedzilla, Then arrest and Jail All Federal Employees within the State. No State is required to Follow Federal law if it believes it is Unconstitutional. Challenge EVERY FEDERAL AGENCY on Constitutional Grounds, Arrest every single person for Violating the rights of their citizens. Use only State Laws, the only recourse for imprisoned Federal Employees is the Presidential Pardon. Force them to Defend their very Jobs as being Constitutional, they cannot defend their actions.


47 posted on 12/14/2009 9:02:04 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: eyeamok

I almost forgot, this is the very reason for STATE MILITIAS.

A State can Also make it a FELONY for any person employed by any Federal Agency to use,own, or posses FIREARMS within their STATE. unless of course they are not a Free, Independent, Sovereign STATE.


48 posted on 12/14/2009 9:08:18 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: bobby.223

And you can’t vote him out because you’re sitting on the sidelines.


49 posted on 12/14/2009 3:20:56 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: Shooter 2.5

why is it up to me to vote this bastard out? why don’t you vote him out since you seem to think so much of this nra outfit? where are you? where are/were the current and past board members while this treasonous muslim infiltrated the once great nra over the past recent years. why was this terrorist organization C.A.I.R’s lobbyist even allowed anywhere NEAR the nra in the FIRST place huh???? when the nra DID find out they STILL looked away because they do not care. (they don’t care obviously or they would have ‘chemo’ed’ this cancer from their org. long ago.) what an ‘wonderful’ organization the nra is; in bed with a man who conspires openly with the main muslim terrorist front group, C.A.I.R., whom is active in the attempted destruction from within, of our great country, a country I have been proud to and have been lucky beyond words to have lived in for many, many years. so go ahead and continue to try to twist your angle on this scandal all you want, those of us following this, and have quit or are now quitting the nra, (over THIS alone), aren’t buying. it really does not matter to me if you or anyone in your family has served in the nra org. in any admin. capacity....but IF you are, or have,.....if you have any new info on what the nra is doing about this, fill us in. I refused, (VERY much refused..how could THIS be??? the nra for cryin’ out loud...of ALL groups??!), to believe this was a true story also when it was told to me last year by other leaving nra members....but much research later I’m sorry and sad to say I find it is. what have you read about this?


50 posted on 12/17/2009 10:15:45 PM PST by bobby.223
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