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Climate claims fail science test ...("a farce" James Hansen, grandfather of climate change)
From: The Australian ^ | December 09, 2009 | Michael Asten

Posted on 12/08/2009 7:31:58 AM PST by IrishMike

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To: maryz
Thanks for the additional information. I also believe Revelle went to burning tree or some such muckity muck convention and apologized for EVER coming up with the idea - and expressed sorrow for the problems it had caused. ( If he was still alive he'd be stunned at how awful it's gotten ) Oh - and that class? Gore got a "D" in it - not much of a mind for science.
21 posted on 12/08/2009 12:59:42 PM PST by GOPJ (Climategate-Who do YOU trust? MSM journalists-Used car salesmen-Alarmist scientists-None of above?)
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To: SouthTexas
"It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong."

If that's an example of the way Feynman things I can see why he won the prize...

22 posted on 12/08/2009 1:02:16 PM PST by GOPJ (Climategate-Who do YOU trust? MSM journalists-Used car salesmen-Alarmist scientists-None of above?)
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To: SouthTexas
"It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong."

If that's an example of the way Feynman thinks I can see why he won the prize... now why did Obama win again?

23 posted on 12/08/2009 1:03:38 PM PST by GOPJ (Climategate-Who do YOU trust? MSM journalists-Used car salesmen-Alarmist scientists-None of above?)
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To: SouthTexas
"It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong."

If that's an example of the way Feynman things I can see why he won the prize....

24 posted on 12/08/2009 1:04:00 PM PST by GOPJ (Climategate-Who do YOU trust? MSM journalists-Used car salesmen-Alarmist scientists-None of above?)
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To: SouthTexas
as Nobel prize winning physicist Richard Feynman observed:

"It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong."

Try slipping that quote around attribued to "Mr. Richard Roe," and see how many people scoff at it...

25 posted on 12/08/2009 1:49:14 PM PST by danielmryan
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To: IrishMike
If the Earth started a cycle of ice ages 33.6 million years ago while having its very carbon-rich atmosphere, and if the Earth showed cycles of ice-age activity when atmospheric CO2 was four times the level that it was in humankind's pre-industrial times, what new information must we incorporate into our present climate models?

The result of their analysis is a CO2-induced amplification factor close to one, which has implications clearly at odds with the earlier IPCC position.... What this means is that the IPCC model for climate sensitivity is not supported by experimental observation on ancient ice ages and recent satellite data.

What a relief...conclusions supported by real data. In my gloomier moods, I wonder how long it'll be before real scientists are smeared out of the field entirely. It's not as hard as it looks if the genuine article is close to retirement age and the imposters are on the verge of taking over the temple...

26 posted on 12/08/2009 1:54:39 PM PST by danielmryan
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To: GOPJ; danielmryan

Really don’t know who Feynman is. Hopefully this is not just a one off statement and maybe there are a few more thatthink like this AND will speak up.


27 posted on 12/08/2009 3:06:23 PM PST by SouthTexas (God Bless our Fort Hood Troops)
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To: SouthTexas
Richard Feynman's now dead, but there are many alive scientists who think the same way. Some of them have been speaking out.
28 posted on 12/08/2009 3:32:47 PM PST by danielmryan
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To: SouthTexas

Nobel prize winning physicist Richard Feynman...


29 posted on 12/08/2009 4:16:22 PM PST by GOPJ (Climategate-Who do YOU trust? MSM journalists-Used car salesmen-Alarmist scientists-None of above?)
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To: IrishMike

The audacity and hypocrisy of these batchit crazy people is the stuff of gaping gazes. I just can’t believe the discourse has devolved to this. Science is now consensus. Facts shouted down. Serious questions ridiculed.

Unbelievable.


30 posted on 12/08/2009 4:20:32 PM PST by IamConservative (Liberty is all a good man needs to succeed.)
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To: IamConservative

“doctor” hanson is not a “scientist”. He is a fool, a moron, a loser, a mental midget, an embarrassment to science, a fraud, an idiot and (to top it off) a government employee. He needs to resign, flog himself as he roams the country seeking absolution. His family probably has already abandoned him because they realize he is a fool.


31 posted on 12/08/2009 6:10:46 PM PST by hal ogen
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