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Was Democrats’ Health Care Strategy Written In Federal Prison?--
Big government breitbart ^ | Dec 7th 2009 | Joel B. Pollak

Posted on 12/07/2009 2:21:01 PM PST by opentalk

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1 posted on 12/07/2009 2:21:01 PM PST by opentalk
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Beck is all over this right now...


2 posted on 12/07/2009 2:23:31 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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****Beck is all over this right now...***

Robert Creamer CONVICTED FELON - attended the *crasher dinner*


3 posted on 12/07/2009 2:28:10 PM PST by sodpoodle (Stop wasting our wealth and start telling the truth.)
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from article:

Creamer wrote his plan in 2006, explicitly proposing that it be carried out in 2009, once a “progressive Democrat is elected President” and once Democrats could count on 60 votes in the Senate. It is curious that Creamer, sitting in prison, could have predicted the details and the timing of President Obama’s legislative agenda so precisely.

... It is a radical agenda, making use of Rep. Schakowsky’s public profile, a network of far-left organizations, and Creamer’s old friends in the White House. It began in federal prison, and has unfolded exactly as intended, over the protests of thousands of ordinary Americans across the nation. It will not end with health care. It will continue until Mr. Creamer’s Alinskyite dream of radical change is realized—or until voters stand up and put a stop to it in 2010.

4 posted on 12/07/2009 2:28:24 PM PST by opentalk
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She is also “bats both ways”

http://www.amconmag.com/article/2009/nov/01/00006/

“Yes, and in 2000, another representative was added to the list, Jan Schakowsky, the Democratic congresswoman from Illinois. Turkish agents started gathering information on her, and they found out that she was bisexual. So a Turkish agent struck up a relationship with her. When Jan Schakowsky’s mother died, the Turkish woman went to the funeral, hoping to exploit her vulnerability. They later were intimate in Schakowsky’s townhouse, which had been set up with recording devices and hidden cameras. They needed Schakowsky and her husband Robert Creamer to perform certain illegal operational facilitations for them in Illinois. They already had Hastert, the mayor, and several other Illinois state senators involved. I don’t know if Congresswoman Schakowsky ever was actually blackmailed or did anything for the Turkish woman.”


5 posted on 12/07/2009 2:32:26 PM PST by 54skylark
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paula creamer Pictures, Images and Photos

So is Robert Creamer related to Paula Creamer?

6 posted on 12/07/2009 2:34:40 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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Amazing. Just amazing.


7 posted on 12/07/2009 2:47:33 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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were in trouble


8 posted on 12/07/2009 2:49:17 PM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk; Liz; penelopesire; hoosiermama; LucyT; STARWISE

Ping to thread.


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Democrat consultant sentenced to prison
Chicago Tribune (IL) - Thursday, April 6, 2006
Author: Michael Higgins and Laurie Cohen, Tribune staff reporters.
Robert Creamer , a top Democratic consultant and the husband of U.S. Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.), was sentenced Wednesday to 5 months in prison for using bad checks to prop up his struggling consumer group and for a tax charge.

Creamer, founder and former head of Illinois Public Action, also must serve 11 months of home confinement. But he escaped the longer sentence of 30 to 37 months suggested by federal guidelines.

Creamer, 58, of Evanston, apologized in court for his conduct but maintained that he had merely been overzealous in his support of a good cause.

“I will never again allow my passion for that goal to overwhelm my good judgment or my respect for the law,” Creamer said in a short statement after the hearing.

Schakowsky said in her own statement: “More than anything, I am proud of who Bob is. ... He has been a constant crusader.”

Creamer pleaded guilty in August to bank fraud and a federal tax charge. But his attorneys argued that he should not serve prison time because he didn’t take the money for his personal use, covered the debts later and has led an “extraordinary” life devoted to social activism.

Prosecutors countered that Creamer’s arguments sounded more like self-promotion than true remorse. But U.S. District Judge James Moran agreed that Creamer was not like a typical bank-fraud defendant.

“There was no intention to cause a loss,” Moran said in court. “Neither the banks nor the government suffered any actual out-of-pocket loss.”

Moran said he also considered that the case against Creamer played out slowly after the check-kiting scheme was discovered in 1997, subjecting Creamer to an “emotionally draining experience.”

More than 200 people wrote letters of support on Creamer’s behalf, including U.S. Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), Cook County Clerk David Orr, state Sen. Carol Ronen (D-Chicago), Chicago Ald. Joe Moore (49th), former State Sen. Dawn Clark Netsch and former U.S. Environmental Protection Agency administrator Carol Browner.

Political consultant David Axelrod and Rev. Jesse Jackson also wrote letters on his behalf.

Creamer’s ties to the Democratic community are so deep that Moran considered recusing himself from the case. The judge, a former Democratic state representative from Evanston, said he had a potential conflict of interest because his son-in-law, political consultant Peter Giangreco, had worked with Creamer and Schakowsky and had sat on the board of one of Creamer’s organizations.

However, neither defense attorneys nor prosecutors voiced concerns about Moran’s connections to Creamer.

Assistant U.S. Atty. Joseph Ferguson said Wednesday that he was disappointed in the sentence and that prosecutors would consider whether to appeal.

But Ferguson expressed satisfaction that Creamer, despite “having the benefit of that powerful network of individuals, is going to jail.”

Creamer admitted in August that as the head of Illinois Public Action, he directed underlings to deposit insufficiently funded checks into various bank accounts, thus allowing the group to temporarily use money that it didn’t have.

Prosecutors said Creamer used the tactic in 1993, 1996 and 1997, when the scheme was detected with Creamer owing $1.4 million to Cole Taylor Bank.

The tax charge stemmed from Creamer’s failure to make withholding-tax payments. Prosecutors dismissed 28 counts in exchange for the guilty plea.

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9 posted on 12/07/2009 2:52:11 PM PST by maggief
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So, one more felon welcomed into the White House and the Obambi administration.

Real shocker...

10 posted on 12/07/2009 2:54:45 PM PST by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: opentalk; Shellybenoit
also see related thread

BREAKING: The Convict Wrote Obama's Strategy For Passing Obamacare & "Democratization of Wealth"

11 posted on 12/07/2009 2:55:46 PM PST by opentalk
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So, one more felon welcomed into the White House and the Obambi administration

Another from Obama's home state.

12 posted on 12/07/2009 3:00:03 PM PST by opentalk
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-----------were in trouble-------------

Not if we can force at least one or two true conservative republicans in the senate to make a big deal out of this.

That will be the key. How much will we all blow up our senators' phones and get them to talk about this so that the mainstream progressive media gets dragged kicking and screaming into reporting it?

If we can use conservative senators into checkmating the media into reporting on this, this bill is dead.

13 posted on 12/07/2009 3:02:26 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing ( How about someone nominate Chris Matthews as the Restless Leg Czar?)
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Mein Kampf was written in prison, wasn't it?
14 posted on 12/07/2009 3:02:33 PM PST by CholeraJoe (I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter.)
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All part of the Obambi thugocracy.


15 posted on 12/07/2009 3:20:25 PM PST by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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I’ve heard ths same thing, but have not verified it.


16 posted on 12/07/2009 3:21:52 PM PST by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing; 54skylark
From Post #5

The information in this link is interesting. Does it imply a possible foreign influence in this bill?
I am not up on this scandal

, When Jan Schakowsky’s mother died, the Turkish woman went to the funeral, hoping to exploit her vulnerability. They later were intimate in Schakowsky’s townhouse, which had been set up with recording devices and hidden cameras.

They needed Schakowsky and her husband Robert Creamer to perform certain illegal operational facilitations for them in Illinois. They already had Hastert, the mayor, and several other Illinois state senators involved. I don’t know if Congresswoman Schakowsky ever was actually blackmailed or did anything for the Turkish woman.

sounds like this needs to be talked about also

17 posted on 12/07/2009 3:21:56 PM PST by opentalk
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That’s a good catch sir.

I’m not sure anybody are ‘up’ on this scandal given that it’s so new, and I really hope people who are eyeing this carefully will notice the same thing you have and investigate it further.

I am so outraged over this. I’ve already spoken to both of my senators’ offices and will continue to do so until I’m blue in the face. And continue after that too.

This whole thing is so dirty from top to bottom. All 2000+ pages.


18 posted on 12/07/2009 3:37:21 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing ( How about someone nominate Chris Matthews as the Restless Leg Czar?)
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Upon going back to see post 5, I can see this is a separate story. Whoops.

I’ll read about this, thanks for pointing it out otherwise I might have overlooked it.


19 posted on 12/07/2009 3:40:02 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing ( How about someone nominate Chris Matthews as the Restless Leg Czar?)
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Written in prison, just like Hitler’s “Mein Kampf”.


20 posted on 12/07/2009 3:50:01 PM PST by DocH (Official Right-Wing Extremist Veteran Seal Of Approval)
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