Posted on 11/30/2009 7:40:52 PM PST by icwhatudo
What happened with Allahpundit?
You know, poor Charles must have anguished over his decision. All those conservative causes he esposes, such as uhh...., you know, were outweighed by all the HATE spewing from the right. He makes a convincing case, just like the flamer David Brock years ago. Will we ever recover? Bob
Mainstream conservatives don't support fascists. Pat Buchanan is a tool of the Left(MSNBC).
2. Support for bigotry, hatred, and white supremacism (see: Pat Buchanan, Ann Coulter, Robert Stacy McCain, Lew Rockwell, etc.)
Ann Coulter does not support racism. See above re: Buchanan.
3. Support for throwing women back into the Dark Ages, and general religious fanaticism (see: Operation Rescue, anti-abortion groups, James Dobson, Pat Robertson, Tony Perkins, the entire religious right, etc.)
Being prolife was long thought of as progressive.
4. Support for anti-science bad craziness (see: creationism, climate change denialism, Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, James Inhofe, etc.)
Even scientists admit global warming is not happening. See CRU.
5. Support for homophobic bigotry (see: Sarah Palin, Dobson, the entire religious right, etc.)
Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, have always condemned homosexual activity.
6. Support for anti-government lunacy (see: tea parties, militias, Fox News, Glenn Beck, etc.)
Restricting the growth of government is anti-government lunacy?
7. Support for conspiracy theories and hate speech (see: Alex Jones, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Birthers, creationists, climate deniers, etc.)
Again, see CRU.
8. A right-wing blogosphere that is almost universally dominated by raging hate speech (see: Hot Air, Free Republic, Ace of Spades, etc.)
As opposed to the left-wing blogosphere?
9. Anti-Islamic bigotry that goes far beyond simply criticizing radical Islam, into support for fascism, violence, and genocide (see: Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, etc.)
Again, not mainstream conservatism.
10. Hatred for President Obama that goes far beyond simply criticizing his policies, into racism, hate speech, and bizarre conspiracy theories (see: witch doctor pictures, tea parties, Birthers, Michelle Malkin, Fox News, World Net Daily, Newsmax, and every other right wing source)
Compare with Leftist attacks on conservatism, Jews, and Christians.
And much, much more. The American right wing has gone off the rails, into the bushes, and off the cliff.
I won’t be going over the cliff with them.
You are welcome to study Christianity, free enterprise, and classic liberalism any time. We aren't going over the cliff anytime soon.
bookmarked.
Honestly, I find value in both sites and see the arguments by both. I really like Freerepublic, but some of the fanaticism turns me off and I know it does with mainstream folks.
For those of us that are fiscal conservatives, pro military but are not religious zealots, where do we go? The far right doesn’t want us, the far left we don’t want.
Sarah who?
Certainly you can’t mean Palin.
I take it you weren't here for the great science purge of 2007 (or was it 2006? There were so many I can't keep them straight) and the subsequent exodus of remaining scientists."4. Support for anti-science bad craziness (see: creationism, climate change denialism, Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, James Inhofe, etc.)snicker
“those of us that are fiscal conservatives, pro military but are not religious zealots”
Well put. Me too.
Gone to the Dark Side, they have. Pity.
Awright. Who's diluting the FR gene pool?
It is not me. You can check my posts. I am as stark, raving, loony-toons as they come...
"re: #67 MountainDad
Piss off, moron."
Then I got banned.....Thank God!!!
Think how this works.
He stops getting so many hits, so the site owner decides to go rogue.
He trashes his former friends, then posts the essay across the net.
All of a sudden, “evil conservatives” start hitting the site, giving him traffic.
See how that works? What’s an easier way to get attention than to trash your former friends?
I read it. That was simply pathetic.
The truth is the truth.
Even if it is wrapped in hatred, anger, villification, vituperation and sarcasm, it is still the truth.
If this guy left conservatism and went liberal because some jerk chose to encase his/her point of view in what liberals like to call “hate speech”, then that guy was never a conservative to begin with.
I don’t agree with the way a lot of people express their point of view, but if I don’t agree with they way they express it, that doesn’t mean I abandon my convictions and embrace the opposite point of view. To do that simply means you had no conviction to begin with.
The Right actually is the party of the hated phrase “big tent”.
The thing is, true conservatives aren’t interested in dictating to people how to live their lives, contrary to what those on the left (including the media) think.
With homosexuality as an example, nearly every conservative I know says the same thing: “I don’t care what they do with their personal lives in their own home. I just don’t want my tax dollars spent on it or the government to codify it.”
In like fashion, people are free to practice their religion as they see fit. We don’t have a religion of secularism which MANDATES that there can be no expression of religion in public. We don’t really care if there is a menorah on the lawn in front of town hall, placed there by town employees. That is fine. As long as someone else can put up a nativity scene, menorahs or nearly anything else is okay.
If I believe in the theory of evolution, and someone else believes in creation, I am fine with it as long as they don’t try to FORCE me to submit to their views.
And so on. I am a fiscal conservative and pro-military, but I am not a religious zealot. There are a lot of people on the right side of the spectrum who coexist just fine.
Conservatism is an idea or set of principles based on fact and reality, not dogma like liberalism.
The problem is in how you define the “Far Right”. I consider myself to be further to the right than many, but then I live in Massachusetts, so it might just be the scale that makes it seem that way to me. If someone asked me to describe “extreme right”, I am not sure what I would say.
It isn’t like...pornography, in that we all seemingly know what it is if we see it, but ask to define it, and it is elusive. I am not even sure how to define it. Does someone classified as “far right” have to convert all non-believers to a Christian God, keep women out of the workplace, own guns, hate all government, preach morality/abstinence and be anti-drug?
I don’t know. How would you define “far right”?
He is a huge supporter of AGW...what did you expect? When the gig is up...they run for cover and he knows he will get no cover from people with principles. Much better to hang with a crowd that have principles and convictions of convenience over substance.
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