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Beam me to Planet Gore !
Posted on 11/20/2009 11:33:27 AM PST by markomalley
Posted by: Jim Hlavac Nov 20, 09:00 AM
"While hacking into the institute's records is inappropriate if not illegal" ?
Just a thought -- radical even -- but isn't breaking the enemy's code in time of war or peril a social good?
I'm sure the Nazis had a law against hacking into Enigma. The British did not follow that law.
Would a private Brit in WWII not have 'hacked' into the mail of a neighbor he knew was a Nazi to save the nation from the enemy within?
Ditto the Russians in the cold war. And spies among us. Ditto not following the law.
If a group of people somewhat paid by us the taxpayer (a public university, indeed,) is out to steal more of our money and our liberty do not we, a free people, have the right to defend ourselves from further fraud? If they did conspire to commit scientific fraud did they not commit the crime? And are the hackers but whistleblowers? In my eyes, whistleblowing in the defense of freedom is no vice.
Ping the list if you please!
“Gravity isn’t a useful theory because Newton was a nice person. QED isn’t powerful because Feynman was respectful of other people around him.”
When climatologist’s theories and models make predictions that are confirmed (almost perfectly) by observation as Newton’s laws (Laws!) of motion and gravity, or Feynman’s quantum elctrodynamics, I’ll start taking warning of global warming seriously. As it is, none of them, or their models, predicted the period of slightly declining temperatures of the last decade or so. Obviously there are some factors that their models don’t take into account, or give appropriate weight to - assuming there is any validity in them at all As it is, there is no reason at all to believe their predictions of future temperature increases.
I hear the sounds of cat’s paws on the tin roof, attempting to cover it’s poop.
Sounds like the author is claiming that he “did not have sex with that woman!”
Exactly what the argument should naturally point. If they take the bait it would mean opening up all of the global warming cult scientist's correspondence. You then pick and choose what scientist you can isolate and isolate him/her, humiliate them..... errr... never mind. I must have channeled Saul Alinsky.
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The RealClimate guys remind me alot of Charles @ LGF. RC has been outed in this story as big time defenders of their crooked bros @ the UEC.....they are furiously tring to tamp down all posters at their site. These frauds are running scared! Prison time should be in their future!
Yeah, but I think there is enough fishy stuff for people to call for a deeper investigation.
LOL! The cat’s out of the bag!
If we can kill Cap and Trade legislation we will have done something that is likely a bigger TAX than Obamacare....
Everyone needs to know about this development.....
Taking advantage of lists I built and used on the Fort Hood Jihad Attack.....
I love what you say....pinging others.
Sounds good to me!
“We’ll deal with the ethics of the hacker AFTER we deal with the ethics (or lack of depending on your POV”
I don’t think the CRU server was hacked. This smells like an inside job. Maybe a whisleblower or a disgruntled “honest” researcher who was fed up with the lies and deception.
Sorry, who is McKintyre?
Climate Audit Blog http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=7806
Looks like there’s a lot going on at his blog.
My PC is so bogged down right now, too many things open & loading :-) I believe he is a scientist, climatologist. You’ll probably get better answers. But do go check out his blog. Many answers there.
Thank you.
Not surprised you are not aware of his work....he and his friends have been exposing the data manipulation of the Scientists favored by the Global Warming Research funding financiers....
His site is too busy to load right now.
I’ll try again later.
Thanks.
McIntyre is responsible for some of the major debunking of AGW . Most recently the Yamal Tree Rings. Also see Watts Up With That, I may be wrong on who was first with the data, but I think it was McIntyre.
Worth going back to catch up on the history. I’m sorry if I’m getting anything wrong.
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