Breaking News Story: CRU has apparently been hacked – hundreds of files released

Watts Up With That? ^ | 19/11/2009 | Anthony Watts

[winoneforthegipper]

Interesting exchange....

M,

This is truly awful. GRL has gone downhill rapidly in recent years.

I think the decline began before Saiers. I have had some unhelpful dealings with him recently with regard to a paper Sarah and I have on glaciers — it was well received by the referees, and so is in the publication pipeline. However, I got the impression that Saiers was trying to keep it from being published.

Proving bad behavior here is very difficult. If you think that Saiers is in the greenhouse skeptics camp, then, if we can find documentary evidence of this, we could go through official AGU channels to get him ousted. Even this would be difficult.

How different is the GRL paper from the Nature paper? Did the authors counter any of the criticisms? My experience with Douglass is that the identical (bar format changes) paper to one previously rejected was submitted to GRL.

T.

and

Dear All,

Just a heads up. Apparently, the contrarians now have an “in” with GRL. This guy Saiers has a prior connection w/ the University of Virginia Dept. of Environmental Sciences that causes me some unease.

I think we now know how the various Douglass et al papers w/ Michaels and Singer, the Soon et al paper, and now this one have gotten published in GRL,

Mike

from the breaking website....airvent

http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/4567/#more-6208

[ichabod1]

See, this crap is why I have trouble believeing in the obesity problem either. This government has GOT TO GO!

[mills044]

Found this article, talking about how the CRU tried to avoid a Freedom of Information Act:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/13/cru_missing/

CRU employee: “...Why should we turn the data over to someone who is trying to discredit it?” (not exact quote)

Love it when the truth gets out.

[ichabod1]

The president wears a brown bra, repeat, the president wears a brown bra.

[Para-Ord.45]

Think I`ll create an account at RealClimate and taunt them mercilessly !

Anyone know what the Soros front group is saying over there at RealClimate ?

LOL

[b4its2late]

So in this case, all this hacking is a good thing?

[maggief]

“I wonder if Algore is amongst the emailers?”

I hope it ties to him and his minions.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

rlmorel;

If true, these dufuses were actually stupid enough to keep emails essentially saying “GET RID OF THE INCRIMINATING EMAILS THAT SHOW WE FUDGED AND MANIPULATED DATA! AND TELL SO-AND-SO TO GET RID OF HIS TOO!”

Nice summary....

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And from post #112: thanks to roses of sharon

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(from HotAir)http://www.climateaudit.org/

Ed, one of the commenters over at Climate Audit says if you follow the money, it leads to Soros. I dont have time to verify the accuracy of that, but you might want to look into it.

mrfixit on November 20, 2009 at 9:22 AM

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Tried to download that but got no results that I could tell,...said it was waiting ......

[PapaBear3625]

Telegraph.co.uk now has a long article on it.

[maggief]

Rahm Emanuel: “You never want a serious crisis to go to waste.”

(Manufactured or otherwise, it seems.)

[DaisyCutter]

Torrent link: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5171206/Hadley_CRU_Files_(FOI2009.zip)

[stayathomemom]

...if you follow the money, it leads to Soros.

Woe, not surprising though.

[rlmorel]

Pfft...as if none of us doubted all this leads back to that Nazi collaborating POS in some way!

Of course, how long will it be before someone tries to paint this as a part of the VRWC, concocted over bourbon and benedictine in some late night underground bunker somewhere...:)

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

I just got my copy of the book Shadow Government...and on page 80 and 81 there is text from a 60 minutes questioning of Soros on Dec 30, 1998 in regards to the fact that even though he was a Jew and aged 14 he posed as a Christian and watched other Jews shipped off to prison and with his protector went out and helped with confiscation of property of the Jews,...and this gave him no problems with his conscience....

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Now that is rather chilling.

[SteamShovel]

one talks of stacking the peer-review process to prevent qualified skeptical scientists from getting their research papers considered

This type of academic fraud should be prosecuted.....

.....The motive is money for research, to push a political agenda (socialism), and prestige.

Real economic harm has been done and will continue to be done in the future.

All of us have been harmed economically by this.

Where are the "Class Action" lawsuits?

[sarasota]

Awaiting your updates!

[ichabod1]

It should show that the governmetn is nothing BUT fraud, is corrupt beyond even description, and that the whole rotten structure is going to come collapsing down just like the soviet union. Thanks communists.

[massmike]

read later

[theDentist]

...concocted over bourbon and benedictine in some late night underground bunker somewhere...

Or in someone's attic? I'd say, not long.

bourbon and benedictine? thinsg that make you go buuuugh!