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Feds raid Gibson offices (Gibson guitars)
Nashville Post ^ | 17 Nov 09 | J. R. Lind

Posted on 11/17/2009 6:33:49 PM PST by Drew68

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Gibson, of course, is one of the most popular manufacturers of American-made, high-end electric and acoustic guitars including the iconic Les Paul, an instrument that can cost upwards of several thousand dollars depending on the specific model.
1 posted on 11/17/2009 6:33:49 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68

Les Paul is spinning in his grave.


2 posted on 11/17/2009 6:36:17 PM PST by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: Drew68

yet the federal government gave Hasan a promotion. Sheesh!


3 posted on 11/17/2009 6:36:56 PM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: Drew68
a key piece of environmental law

And the US law regulates the behavior of Americans on US soil with the aim of impacting the environment of other countries.

Hey, what stuff are we NOT responsible for....?

4 posted on 11/17/2009 6:37:41 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Drew68
U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service:

Why don't they arrest illegals throwing prayer rugs, diapers, and water bottles all over the southwest desert...?

5 posted on 11/17/2009 6:38:45 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Drew68

War on success continues. Film at 11.


6 posted on 11/17/2009 6:38:47 PM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: gaijin

Health care!

duh.


7 posted on 11/17/2009 6:39:12 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Pray for Obama...Psalms 109:8)
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To: Drew68

Don’t the feds have more important things to do...LIKE STOPPING ISLAMIC TERRORISTS FROM SHOOTING UP MILITARY BASES AND KILLING AMERICAN SERVICE MEMBERS AND CITIZENS?

An outrage an hour from the new Obama clowns!


8 posted on 11/17/2009 6:39:31 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: bamahead

OMFG!!!

How long until all guitars are made in China?? .....


9 posted on 11/17/2009 6:39:39 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Drew68

Interesting. I never thought of a guitar as wildlife.

Overview of the Lacey Act (16 U.S.C. SS 3371-3378)

The Lacey Act, 16 U.S.C. §§ 3371-3378, protects both plants and wildlife by creating civil and criminal penalties for a wide array of violations. Most notably, the Act prohibits trade in wildlife, fish, and plants that have been illegally taken, possessed, transported or sold. Thus, the Act underscores other federal, state, and foreign laws protecting wildlife by making it a separate offense to take, possess, transport, or sell wildlife that has been taken in violation of those laws. The Act prohibits the falsification of documents for most shipments of wildlife (a criminal penalty) and prohibits the failure to mark wildlife shipments (civil penalty). The Lacey Act is administered by the Departments of the Interior, Commerce, and Agriculture through their respective agencies. These include the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, National Marine Fisheries Service, and Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service.

The Lacey Act was first introduced by Iowa Congressman John Lacey in the House of Representatives in the spring of 1900. It was signed into law by President William McKinley on May 25, 1900. The original Act was directed more at the preservation of game and wild birds by making it a federal crime to poach game in one state with the purpose of selling the bounty in another. It was also concerned with the potential problems of the introduction of non-native, or exotic species of birds and animals into native ecosystems. Finally, it sought to buttress state laws already in existence for the protection of game and birds.

The Lacey Act has been amended several times since its inception in 1900. The most significant ones occurred in 1969, 1981, and 1988. The 1969 amendments expanded to include amphibians, reptiles, mollusks, and crustaceans. The maximum penalty was increased to $10,000 with possible imprisonment for one year. Additionally, the mental state required for a criminal violation was increased to “knowingly and willfully;” civil penalties were expanded to apply to negligent violations.

In 1981, Congress removed the heightened proof standard of “willfully” from the statute, making “knowingly” the standard. This came in response to an increased illegal trade in fish and wildlife both domestically and abroad. Indigenous plants were also added to the protected species. With regard to penalty, the maximum civil fine was raised to $10,000 and a bifurcated felony/misdemeanor scheme was created under the statute based on the conduct of the offender and the market value of the species at issue. Under the felony portion of the statute, the maximum penalty was set at $20,000 and/or five years imprisonment; misdemeanor violations were set at $10,000 and/or up to one-year imprisonment. The amendments also allowed for warrantless arrest for felony violations under the Act and expansion of the role of federal wildlife agents.

In 1988, the role of guiding or outfitting services were added to cover a new threat to big game species under the ambit of “sale.” Prior to the amendment, big game guides who provided illegal hunts were immune to prosecution for violation based on commercial activity. The amendments also created a separate and distinct violation for the intended falsification of documents pertaining to the exporting, importing, or transporting of wildlife, fish, or plants. The felony provision of this part of the act was amended such that one could be convicted if he or she either knew of the import or export of the species or where he or she was involved in the sale or purchase of wildlife, fish, or plants with a market value greater than $350.

The Lacey Act now stands as one of the broadest and most comprehensive forces in the federal arsenal to combat wildlife crime. With increasing activity in international and domestic wildlife trafficking, the Act has evolved to become an important weapon to protect animals domestically and abroad.

For further discussion on the Lacey Act, see, The Lacey Act: America’s Premier Weapon in the Fight Against Unlawful Wildlife Trafficking, by Robert S. Anderson, 16 Public Land Law Review (Public Land and Resources Law Review) 27, 1995.

http://www.animallaw.info/articles/ovuslaceyact.htm


10 posted on 11/17/2009 6:41:14 PM PST by MajorThomas (Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.)
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To: GOP Poet

Obama’s Jihad on Guitars.


11 posted on 11/17/2009 6:41:35 PM PST by omega4179 (0 is an embarrassment to us all.)
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To: Drew68
well hell, if it's made in America and employing Americans, by all means we need the F#$king federal government and their parasites to destroy the company and fine them to oblivion.

What the heck? Maybe they can used recycled crates and old copper wires to make guitars that nobody will buy. After all what does the private sector know about guitar making.

We need the "Guitar maker in chief" the head luthier to tell us what kind of guitars we need, who needs to own them and what kind of wood they should be made of.

What a joke. We've got gang bangers killing each other by the hundreds, thug union punks scamming millions of dollars from municipalities, and Islamo facists posting and stating that they want to destroy America, but the real criminals are the people at Gibson guitars.

For all the liberals at Gibson guitar , I am just smiling at how that "Hope and Change" is working out real well for them.

12 posted on 11/17/2009 6:41:59 PM PST by erman (Give a man a fire, warm him for one night. Set a man on fire, warm him for the rest of his life.)
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They already are


13 posted on 11/17/2009 6:41:59 PM PST by MajorThomas (Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.)
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To: TommyDale

The Feds cannot be bothered with Al Gore’s zinc mine on his property just down the road. It is run by Occidental Petroleum which has had a long history with the Gore’s. The zinc mine is leaching zinc into the local rivers and ground water and has for years.


14 posted on 11/17/2009 6:42:11 PM PST by Frantzie (Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
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To: Drew68

Maybe the Feds should run a cash for guitars program, if anything, at least we’ll be safe from those dangerous rockstar, want-a-bees.


15 posted on 11/17/2009 6:43:00 PM PST by WhatNot ( Healthcare Bill-the other man-made object large enough to be seen from outer-space.)
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To: Drew68

Crime: Possession of wood. Check my tag line.


16 posted on 11/17/2009 6:44:01 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: MajorThomas

How many pythons are in Florida?


17 posted on 11/17/2009 6:44:06 PM PST by Freddd (CNN is not credible.)
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To: Drew68

If they really wanted to protect this type of wood, they would allow it to be openly bought and sold. This would result in more of it being planted and grown to meet the demand/


18 posted on 11/17/2009 6:46:15 PM PST by PackerBoy (Just my opinion ....)
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To: WhatNot
Next up ...confiscating Stradivarius violins...
19 posted on 11/17/2009 6:47:12 PM PST by spokeshave (Obama can't unjump the shark "Obama Wa Nobel-sho Ni Ataeshinai" ("Obama Unworthy of Nobel Prize"))
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To: MajorThomas
They already are

Well, Gibson's entry-level Epiphone line are produced (mostly) in China.

Gibson, so far, has resisted. If it says "Gibson" on the headstock (and isn't a counterfeit) it's made in America.

For how much longer? Who knows.

20 posted on 11/17/2009 6:48:23 PM PST by Drew68
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