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NY 23- Has the majority ruled? - ALAN KEYES
Loyal to Liberty ^ | November 12, 2009 | Alan Keyes

Posted on 11/12/2009 6:18:26 AM PST by EternalVigilance

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To: mnehring
Hoffman’s big surge unfortunately, probably came after most of the absentee ballots were already filled out and mailed.
Ping to my #19.

21 posted on 11/12/2009 6:46:06 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Anyone who claims to be objective marks himself as hopelessly subjective.)
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To: Marty62
I thought Pols couldn’t be sworn in until the State certified results.

The idea that they can be is preposterous.

22 posted on 11/12/2009 6:46:48 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Partisans only for principle. - America's Independent Party - AIPNews.com)
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To: HerrBlucher

Then why did Hoffman concede?


He conceded late on election night. Waaaaay to premature, IMO.


23 posted on 11/12/2009 6:52:59 AM PST by Psalm 144 (What did you think NEW WORLD ORDER meant? The Constitution? States' rights? Individual liberty?)
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To: EternalVigilance
I believe Hoffman seceded to Owens. I guess they can count until eternity but it is over.
24 posted on 11/12/2009 6:53:08 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: HerrBlucher

My understanding, and someone correct me if I am wrong, is that concessions mean exactly nothing. Final, certified vote counts count, not concessions. They are not legally binding they are a custom, a formality, a niceity, a classy thing to do (if you are sure you lost) but carry no legal weight.


25 posted on 11/12/2009 6:56:09 AM PST by NeoCaveman (let's all go rogue)
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To: HerrBlucher; All

He conceded because Hoffman, at the time, crunched the numbers and said those absentees wouldn’t make a bit of difference.

But, now the vote total does seem narrower than they were anticipating....

I think my statement on the thread that the math isn’t there may be a bit too hasty.

That is why he conceded though. He would have to win an unusually large number of the absentees, which he may have.


26 posted on 11/12/2009 6:56:16 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: HerrBlucher

“When are conservatives going to stop giving away their lunch money to bullies?”

I have often said Conservative pols need to grow a pair, but I like the way you put it.


27 posted on 11/12/2009 6:57:32 AM PST by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: napscoordinator

Concession doesn’t matter. Votes do.

Concession is a formality and a nice way to bow out, but if for some weird reason the person conceding wins, the presumed victor becomes the loser.

They don’t win just because the other guy conceded.


28 posted on 11/12/2009 6:57:43 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: napscoordinator
What if it is shown that Hoffman conceded based on a lie? What if we find that it wasn't human error that led Hoffman to believe that he lost, but intentional confusion designed to elicit a premature response?

Would it still be over in that case? If so, what's to stop all future elections managed by Democrats to have confusing announcements in close races?

-PJ

29 posted on 11/12/2009 6:59:26 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (Every child will be a natural born criminal until their parents add them to their health care plan.)
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To: iowamark

I said that too that night—how come we don’t wait to count absentee ballots? So what if it slows down the process.
It’s like saying the votes aren’t needed.


30 posted on 11/12/2009 6:59:36 AM PST by Achilles Heel
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To: CedarDave

Yes, I have heard that the district won’t even exist in 2010. But if it does, it will go back to the GOP.


31 posted on 11/12/2009 7:00:43 AM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: EternalVigilance

Thank RINO Scum like Newt, Dede and the NY-23 local GOP DIABLO party booses for messing this up. Their sh*t helped get ObamaCare passed.


32 posted on 11/12/2009 7:01:50 AM PST by Frantzie (Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
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To: Achilles Heel

They almost never change the outcome, and Hoffman knew that. However, he appears to be doing rather well, so it may need to be taken into consideration.

My bet is the vote total will end up below 1000, but still a non-Hoffman win unfortunately.


33 posted on 11/12/2009 7:02:10 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Grumpybutt

In Canada, broadcasting the results of the vote nationwide is prohibited, with stiff penalties for violators, until the polls close in the West for that reason.

The gov’t also wants to prevent vote switching out West based on the Eastern results.


34 posted on 11/12/2009 7:05:16 AM PST by Don W (I will praise Him.)
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To: Grumpybutt

I agree with you. In their effort to be the first to report, these organizations do a disservice to voters.


35 posted on 11/12/2009 7:07:43 AM PST by Skenderbej (People need to learn that no muhammadan practices his religion peacefully.)
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To: HerrBlucher

Exactly. Is this country worth fighting for or not?

We need a little more Churchill and a lot less Pansy in the Republican party. We have to fight them in the trenches...just couldn’t resist.


36 posted on 11/12/2009 7:10:06 AM PST by A Strict Constructionist (How long before we are forced to refresh the Tree of Liberty?)
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To: Don W

easy way to resolve those issue is to just open and close all polls simultaniously regardless of time zone.


37 posted on 11/12/2009 7:10:50 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: napscoordinator
I believe Hoffman seceded to Owens. I guess they can count until eternity but it is over.

Elections are decided by the people, not by concession speeches by politicians.

38 posted on 11/12/2009 7:10:52 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Partisans only for principle. - America's Independent Party - AIPNews.com)
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To: rwfromkansas

My bet is the vote total will end up below 1000, but still a non-Hoffman win unfortunately.


It will depend upon how many ballots there are, locals where they are from, etc. I had read earlier that there were something less than 6,000 of the almost 11,000 issued absentee ballots returned. There figure will have changed as they have now reached the final turn in date. Under those numbers Hoffman would need them to break for him in a very high percentage, maybe 4 to 1 or better.


39 posted on 11/12/2009 7:11:40 AM PST by deport
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To: EternalVigilance

Frankened.


40 posted on 11/12/2009 7:26:05 AM PST by manic4organic (Obama shot hoops, America lost troops.)
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