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I could see this coming when Shep first blathered on about PTSD, harrasment, blah, blah, blah. Someone issued orders on how to frame this story. Even FOX is marching lockstep. It's a gut opinion, no proof.
1 posted on 11/08/2009 6:11:24 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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So in the drive to excuse this terrorist and the ideology behind him and his actions, PTSD now stands for Pre-Tramautic Stress Syndrome? Did I get this right?

Just damn.


136 posted on 11/09/2009 2:25:24 AM PST by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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From the article: "We can’t know for sure,...

Just how much more does an Islamic extremist have to do before one might get a clue as to why he acted the way he did?

Some people who don't think they can know for sure don't realize that perspective merely throws gasoline on the smoldering fire of Taqquiri.

Besides, we don't have to know for sure, because his Criminal behavior should be penalized by capital punishment. Kill the murdering terrorist and let everybody else live with it.

..."but I believe that the threat of deployment of Major Hasan to first hand have to go into combat and witness and even support Americans killing Muslims was just too much."

He's a Field grade officer in the US Army. He should relish the idea of getting the opportunity to go to war to defend our nation and perhaps influence the power of our Adversaries. His actions indicate his stress was predicated upon his traitorous thinking, lack of self-discipline to avoid such thinking, lack of integrity to grasp how to live in freedom, and apparantly a fatal frantic search for happiness in anything other than what God provides.

... "Previously traumatized by hearing the stories of too many soldiers with PTSD and too many soldiers telling tales of killing Muslims (who he increasingly felt a kinship too) and their families, the fear of now going and perpetrating it firsthand may have proved too much, caused him to panic, and react to that panic by perpetrating the killings he did.

I see the author has no problems surmising about the tales the criminal psychiatrist endured, but lacks the discernment to identify the actions as murder, calling them killings in the same sentence he speaks of soldiers engaged in combat as killing Muslims.

IMHO, there isn't much difference between the author's perspective and the Muslim perspective. Neither position recognize God through faith in Christ. Both attempt to solve problems independent of God and what He provides.

"My first presupposition is that nobody is born bad, but everybody is born vulnerable."

There is only some 2000 years of Christian theology and another 3000 years or so of Hebrew theology which counters that position at fundamental levels of understanding, yet here we have a criminal mind and his peer ignorant of basics touching directly upon the issue contemplating the righteousness of murder and terror.

Great testimony of those who purport to be great, independent of God, as they manifest the greatest of foolishness and are too arrogant to perceive their own malaise.

139 posted on 11/09/2009 3:27:18 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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"Now imagine figuratively that a recruit’s brain and “loosey gooseyness” is due to their three brains being loosely wired together."

Let's not.

The Marines I trained with, weren't 'loosey goosey', but were placed under tremendous stress during recruit training in order to discern which men were not able to function under the stress they would likely encounter in combat, thereby failing to perform as functional team members.

It didn't have crap to deal with breaking them down psychologically and rebuilding them.

Maybe the author needs to consider the perspective that all humans have volition and free will, and how to live and let live in organizations which build upon that volition. The discipline and integrity within the character of soldiers is built upon respect for legitimate authority.

140 posted on 11/09/2009 3:37:30 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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If you are someone who disagrees with that, then I would suggest you stop reading now.

Thanks for the advice,you clown.I did just that...stopped reading.I need know nothing more about you,or your ideas,now.And BTW,we'll make sure that from now on there are at least a dozen 9th Century pig fornicating,knuckledragging "jihadists" living in your neighborhood.

142 posted on 11/09/2009 4:25:14 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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I may anger some here, but:

1) There really are diseases of the brain whose sufferers are not responsible for their actions. I’m talking about things like schizophrenia, tumors, dementia, and Alzheimer’s. All one has to do is take a walk through a home for seniors to come to the sobering realization that the old lady yelling at the light bulb was once a normal, happy, functioning person. Just because this article gets some key elements very, very wrong does not mean that it is completely inaccurate.

2) I’ve participated in enough deliverance sessions to know that there is real evil in this world. People can be evil on their own and they can also be urged on or controlled partially or even wholly by demons. I’ve seen it. It’s bad. Unlike the author, I do believe that humans are born with original sin, fully capable of knowingly committing evil acts, and that there is an incarnate Satan with demonic followers.

Hasan may have a mental illness but I haven’t seen anything to suggest that he did not have the ability to determine right from wrong. I believe that he knowingly committed an evil act and is fully accountable for his actions.


147 posted on 11/09/2009 7:51:55 AM PST by DallasMike
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My first presupposition is that nobody is born bad,

There's his problem, right there. Our esteemed author rejects the truth of Original Sin ... His analysis is worthless, as it is based on a false premise.

149 posted on 11/09/2009 7:58:50 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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That is the way sheep treat the wolves that kill and maim them, Mr Goulston. Sheep must be a great civilization.
151 posted on 11/09/2009 8:00:41 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (America is ailin'-the cure is Palin.)
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My first presupposition is that nobody is born bad, but everybody is born vulnerable. By that I mean that I don’t believe that anyone is born evil unless of course you believe in such a thing as the Devil incarnate.

Here's why he's messed up and can't come to the correct conclusion. Everybody is born bad. It's our nature. Some are less bad and by comparison look pretty good, but we are all rebellious, evil and carnal. And this is in large part due to the thoughts and actions of Satan and a legion of demons.

152 posted on 11/09/2009 8:03:51 AM PST by DouglasKC
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Psychology- nuff said, Psychology doesn’t believe in “true” evil, as in God vs evil ...


154 posted on 11/09/2009 8:11:05 AM PST by Scythian
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Major Nidal Malik Hasan was not a bad person. He was even possibly a good person. But he was a very sick person who did a terrible thing.

It can't be said enough. Liberalism is a GD fricken disease that we need to eradicate before it eradicates us. It can and will destroy everything we value.

155 posted on 11/09/2009 8:17:53 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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An article in Psycology Today, presumably written by a psychologist. I think they are all kooks. It seems to be a prerequisite for that profession. That islamic homicidal maniac is EVIL. Islam is EVIL. Get over it.


160 posted on 11/09/2009 2:43:08 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is a parasite that kills the host)
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This so-called doctor is an IDIOT! The murderer is a TERRORIST!

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:VLJSuQ7AucEJ:markgoulston.com/about+Mark+Goulston&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Mark Goulston, M.D. is a business advisor, consultant, trainer and coach trained as a clinical psychiatrist who honed his skills as an FBI/police hostage negotiation trainer who increases people’s ability to get through to anyone.

Dr. Goulston’s development of those skills started with his education: a B.A. from UC Berkeley, an M.D. from Boston University, post graduate residency in psychiatry at UCLA.


162 posted on 11/09/2009 3:05:38 PM PST by kcvl
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Much more fact than this. Hasan handed out korans, went to a strip club night before and many other “non-stressed” behavioural examples (since we are examining behaviour as a basis for why someone does something). Total BS and concoction. This guy knew exactly what he was doing, and premeditatively went to buy the pistols and ammo. FBI has lots of data to the contrary to this idiotic analysis.

For the spiritual side from his VA Imam: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2382467/posts


167 posted on 11/09/2009 5:44:06 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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Wonder if this guy would write the same article after a Muslim Jihadist beheaded his Wife and Kids?

I think not...

170 posted on 11/09/2009 6:55:11 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Conservatives THINK people are smart. Liberals KNOW people are stupid.)
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Two words:

Nit Wit


176 posted on 11/09/2009 7:15:25 PM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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