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Judge Carter Grants Motion to Dismiss
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Posted on 10/29/2009 9:09:12 PM PDT by humble and shy

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To: humble and shy
“And yes, I believe Obama is a domestic enemy and I believe he is hurting this country exponentially every day. I, an American citizen, have standing because I am being directly hurt, my family is being directly hurt, by this man’s overspending of money, putting more burdens up me and my family financially. He has lied (like most every politician in office right now) and is putting our troops in danger in Afghanistan.”

I sympathize, but I think that is the gist of the problem with these cases. This sentiment is, consciously or unconsciously, being mixed with the legal process, assuming it has some standing in a court of law when it, in fact, does not. Courts are process and procedural instruments. They are designed to handle a finite number of questions that can be articulated in specific ways. Some people take that to mean the courts are corrupt or foolish; nothing could be further from the truth. The legal system has the potential to be hideously abusive to each and every one of us, and so requires clearly defined rules and precedents to function in a decent manner. Simply “knowing” someone is bad, or feeling very strongly that they must be stopped is never enough for our legal system to act, nor should it be. The potential for abuse in that is dramatic and obvious.

The courts are simply not a good vehicle for this. They aren't designed to process something like this after the fact. As any number of lawyers have stated, Obama gets the benefit of status quo, as he should in a sane and functional legal system. If we really believe in this country, the answer is pursue different results in future elections. And if you really want to see a long form, the answer is to convince state legislators to pass certification requirements for future elections.

41 posted on 10/30/2009 10:28:00 AM PDT by tired_old_conservative
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To: humble and shy

“I am not a birther. I just want him to produce his documents - that’s all.”

Same here. My inclination is to believe the Clinton people would have looked into this during the primaries but seem to have come up with nothing. Once Barry was the Dem nominee, no one, neither the GOP/McCain-Palin campaign/MSN/Congress .. NO ONE in power was willing to touch the question. And we are far worse off for that failure.

Some $1.6M later, the POTUS is unwilling to make any information about his obscure background available to the public he theoretically serves.

There are a few cases remaining. No way is Carter’s opinion going to be overturned, either at the 9th Circuit or at the SCOTUS. I don’t think there’s a lawyer in the country, if one were competent and willing, who would be able to save this particular case. One of the others may have a shot. We can hope.

But if none succeed, won’t his “presidential library” be interesting?


42 posted on 10/30/2009 6:29:07 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: goldi

On Friday a caller got in to Limbaugh’s show and asked Rush about Philip Beg and Donald Young. Rush said that he was the smartest man in the world and he had NEVER heard of these men. Later in the show he supported a point by saying “gawker.com” said so. Now, I’ve never heard of gawker but more than half of America knows about Berg, Young, Larry and Barry’s alleged sex capades.
I thought about this and can only surmise that these folks want to keep the conversation relevant and on the “high road” as these claims aren’t helpful.
You decide.


43 posted on 10/31/2009 1:01:33 PM PDT by callithump
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