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Attorney Apuzzo appeals Obama citizenship case to Federal 3rd Circuit
Examiner.com ^ | 10-27-2009 | Dianna Cotter - M. Apuzzo

Posted on 10/27/2009 1:36:59 PM PDT by Danae

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To: Danae

“Don’t wonder why they are trying to do as much as they can as fast as they can, they know that once the gig is up with Obama they will be out of power for a very long time, assuming that the DNC survives at all given they are PART of the cover up....”

The DNC will not survive the civil war that is coming.


21 posted on 10/27/2009 2:36:18 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (For those who have had to fight for it, freedom has a flavor the protected shall never know.)
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To: nikos1121
How many lawsuits are out there?

This one, Philip Berg's, and Orly Taitz's are the big ones filed before the innauguration. Others have been filed since. Google "Obama lawsuits" for more.

22 posted on 10/27/2009 4:00:28 PM PDT by circumbendibus (Where's the Birth Certificate?)
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To: Danae

I agree; I lived through Watergate, and this is small potatoes. It is time for every American to stand up and say “No, we won’t obeny laws that have been unconstitutionally passed by a usurper.” Barry is hiding something big; remember he met with SCOTUS members (all but 1) prior to his inauguration; wonder what the conversation was about? Google it; Barry wanted to tell them something important in private - was it that he couldn’t prove his “natural-born” status?


23 posted on 10/27/2009 4:01:53 PM PDT by majormaturity
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To: Danae
Center column 3rd paragraph down:

Source:
http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llcg&fileName=071/llcg071.db&recNum=2
> you have to turn to page 1291

According to the the principal framer (John Armor Bingham )of the 14th amendment, particularly
Citizenship and the Citizenship Clause (Defining who was a citizen of the United States) and by Mr. Obama’s
own admission he is not a Natural Born citizen.

“I find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill],
which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the
jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language
of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen… . . –
John Bingham in the United States House on March 9, 1866”

24 posted on 10/27/2009 4:03:57 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: LucyT

The wheels of justice are turning very, very slowly....


25 posted on 10/27/2009 4:15:59 PM PDT by azishot
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To: All

This may not be news to any of you guys, but it is to me.

So I’m in my history class today and discover the first time a judge refused to hear a case based on “standing” and it was essentially a way to get out of ruling on a case that would get the court in hot water or prove itself impotent in the actual enforcement of the ruling.

Marbury Vs. Madison- Chief Justice John Marshall didn’t want to issue an order to Sec of State Madison that he knew Madison would ignore, but he also supported Marbury’s position. So.... “judicial review” was born and wala, we have the first case of kick the judicial can.

And we see it still applies today. When a judge is a weenie, “standing” applies.


26 posted on 10/27/2009 4:30:44 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: Danae
Someone thre me the issue that all Jewish people in America are eligible for Israeli citizenship. That may be true, but they aren’t BORN with it. Obama was born the son of a British father and inherited British citizenship through him

It's not so much the "dual citizen" aspect as it is the lack of both parents being US Citizens. Most Jewish people born in the US have US citizen parents.

Although I know one whose parents were German, but may have been naturalized here after surviving the Nazi death camps. Quiet folks they were. Her husband's grandfather or great grandparents, OTOH, came in through the port of Galveston around 1900, or a bit before.

27 posted on 10/27/2009 4:37:41 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: DaveTesla

Beautiful! Nice find!! There are many all over history. It is clear that our ancestors were well aware of what a Natural Born Citizen is. Thats why Chester Arthur changed his birth date, and tried to cover up the fact his Father was Irish Born British, lived for over a decade in Canada, and was not naturalized until Arthur was about 14 or so.

The 21st President was NOT a Natural Born Citizen either. The only difference is that the American People did not get the information during Arthur’s Term after Garfield was assassinated. One lawyer, Hinman, figured it out, but he was saying that Arthur was born in Canada, due to the fact Arthur changed his Birth year.

At any rate, Arthur went to some length to cover it up. Hinman’s book on the subject can be found here, I got an electronic copy of it over the weekend: http://www.scribd.com/doc/21618933/HABSBTPOTUS Have not had a chance to read it all yet, but I am doing a research paper on Arthur for my History course.


28 posted on 10/27/2009 4:49:25 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: autumnraine

Yep. Thats whats being done here. The entire judicial system knows this is a case that MUCT go to SCOTUS. The fastest way to do that is to dismiss on standing so that the plaintiffs can get the right appellate court to appeal it to. Actually winning the case would be the best thing for Obama, because they could conceivably tie it up in court for YEARS by choosing the wrong appellate courts.

Think if it like a chess game. You are going to ahve to make some sacrifices to win, and sometimes what looks like losing is actually just the path to the goal.

The After-birthers all think this is great. They will continue to do so until its actually being argued before SCOTUS at which point they will LOSE THEIR MINDS.


29 posted on 10/27/2009 4:52:52 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Danae

Talk about needing a lot of popcorn if that should happen!


30 posted on 10/27/2009 5:07:09 PM PDT by charles1252
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To: charles1252

Oh yea... I think I might have to break out veggies and carrots and other stuff because I will eat barrels of Popcorn on that one.

The United States will collectively hold its breath when this Hits SCOTUS. And Believe me, it WILL. Thats what Apuzzo is working for. He knows that it has to get punted up the line through all the proper challenges, because it is a matter of LAW. And because he is demanding that the law be upheld in regards to Obama, it has to be done to the letter of that same law.

Its is achingly slow. But it has to be done right. There is too much at stake.


31 posted on 10/27/2009 5:14:25 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: LucyT

thx


32 posted on 10/27/2009 5:29:46 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Danae
"Obama was born the son of a British father and inherited British citizenship through him. He never was a Natural Born Citizen."

There is no prohibition against dual citizens being "natural born" citizens.

33 posted on 10/27/2009 5:31:37 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Danae
Heads should roll. Watergate was nothing compared to this.

That's what I initially thought when Obama announced on his website that his Father was a British Citizen. I thought, "Well that's it for him. Father not a US Citizen, ergo, not a Natural Born Citizen, ergo, can't run for President. . . Next case. ." But no, everyone ignored it and the MSM elected him President and Cheney and Congress didn't stand up to him and say, "Hey, You're not a Natural Born Citizen."

I propose a Clarion Call to a huge Patriotic Group of Constitutional Attorneys to band together and put the egos and petty differences aside and get an office in D.C. and start a huge concentrated effort to process the Quo Warranto Law and confront Obama. Start the process and go up to SCOTUS again, or have it dealt with through Congress, whatever the path is. I make a plea for Leo Donofrio, Ed Vieira, Orly Taitz, Gary Kreep and any other Patriotic Conservative attorneys to band together, pool their talents and resources and start the Quo Warranto process as soon as possible. I'm thinking a major push, a Ken Starr Special Prosecutor type effort to push this along. Get 50 attorneys, 100 paralegals, get a huge office in Washington D.C. and give it the biggest full court press you can. If the word got out this was happening, people would donate a Lot. Sure, it's in the belly of the beast, but sometimes you have to engage them face to face. . .

Is this an extreme idea? Was it extreme that the MSM and the powers at be elected a Manchurian Candidate communist last November who is constitutionally not qualified to serve as President of the United States and be Commander in Chief of our Armed Forces? Is your Country worth it? Does the Constitution still matter? I look at my 10 yr old Grandson and think what is the country going to be like when he's my age if this communist "progressive" system takes over the country? Okay, I'm done. . for now.

34 posted on 10/27/2009 5:45:10 PM PDT by Art in Idaho
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To: Danae

Considering FoxNews is owned by British knight, Sir Rupert Murdoch; it’s not surprising his network doesn’t want to talk about the President being a British usurper.


35 posted on 10/27/2009 6:06:26 PM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: Danae; pissant; All
Quo Warranto information:

Quo Warranto Definition

From Leo Donofrio's site: QUO WARRANTO LEGAL BRIEF: part 1

QUO WARRANTO LEGAL BRIEF: Part 2

QUO WARRANTO LEGAL BRIEF: Part 3

36 posted on 10/27/2009 6:08:30 PM PDT by Art in Idaho
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To: circumbendibus
I wish Fox would pick up on these eligibility lawsuits. What do they have to lose now?

Did you catch Bull O'Reilly tonight? "Crazy Birthers"..."Barack has alread released his birth certificate"...etc. etc. etc. Bill O'Reilly....wouldn't let him lick the sweat off my a$$ if he was dying of thirst.

37 posted on 10/27/2009 6:20:36 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: Americas last, best hope for survival.)
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To: Art in Idaho

I am flat broke, but I will tell you what, I will go door to door collecting bottles in order to donate to an organization doing that.

Apuzzo has his head on straight. Leo is working on something he can’t talk about. I have inquires pending at Hawaii’s DoH that will be HARD to duck. Very hard. Things are going on, and eventually this ugly zit is going to come to a head. When it pops... its going to be very messy for a lot of people.


38 posted on 10/27/2009 6:32:43 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: NurdlyPeon

LOL What a freak. He is part of the cover up now. Wonder what he got misled by.

Hey BILL! It isn’t his BIRTH CERTIFICATE THAT MATTERS!

ITS HIS BRITISH DAD you maroon. Makes me sad to be Irish really.


39 posted on 10/27/2009 6:34:10 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Danae
Heads should roll. Watergate was nothing compared to this.

Don't forget, Watergate was not about the actual crime (a silly, third rate burglary), it was about the cover-up. If I could try to focus and clarify the issue for a moment.

I see a lot of people expounding and arguing about motives and aftermath. As far as I am concerned, these issues are just distractions designed to run out the clock and take peoples focus off of the core issue. The bottom line issue is this: Barak Obama claims that he was born in a hospital in Hawaii. If this is true, then the long form birth certificate will have the name of the doctor and the attending nurse. Barak has stated in one of his books that he has a copy of his birth certificate, so presumably he knows what is on it. He has repeatedly stated that he was born IN A HOSPITAL in Hawaii. If the long form BC does not bear this out, then he has been lying to us.

I should note at this point, that under the laws of the State of Hawaii at the time, one was able to become a legal, legitimate U.S./Hawaiian citizen based solely on an affidavit submitted (even mailed in) by a relative. Obama may or may not have been born in Kenya, he may or may not have been born is a hut in Hawaii, but either way, if his maternal Grandmother (now dead), certified that he was born in Hawaii, then he is legal and legit (unless you can PROVE, which you cannot, that he was born somewhere else). But again, this is not the issue. The issue is: he has stated that he was born IN A HOSPITAL IN HAWAII. If this is the case, then the doctor's signature will be on the long form. If this is not the case, then the long form will reference some attached affidavit. He will still be legal, but he will have spent millions of dollars to cover up the baldfaced lie that he has been telling the American people. THAT is the issue here. The long form BC either WILL or WILL NOT have the doctors signature on it. I wish people would keep their focus on this. As I said before, he could have been born on Mars, but as long as they have the affidavit on file from now-dead granny saying he was born in Hawaii, then he's legal. We can't count on the courts (except to be spineless). The battle field is in the arena of public opinion. The only question before the court of public opinion is: Has Barak Obama spent over a million dollars to cover up the fact that he has knowingly been lying to the American public?

40 posted on 10/27/2009 6:52:23 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: Americas last, best hope for survival.)
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