Posted on 10/23/2009 9:09:26 PM PDT by Maelstorm
Oh shut your piehole, you 2 month old, non-paying newbie...
He’s the token black conservative and a RINO. If you’ve been paying any attention NEWBIE...80% of Freepers in every thread are disgusted with the token black liberal guilt chosen leader.
Nice try TROLL.
In all fairness to max, his statement is analytically similar to Rush’s ESPN comments. Technically, he is not being racist; he is describing GOP racism. If Steele was chosen, not because he was absolutely the best person for the job, but because it was thought his skin color would help pull in black votes, then that is where the real racism lies, and not with max. The problem is that for most people, this type of analysis is too cumbersome. It is far easier to blindly launch off the mere presence of certain keywords as triggers to the charge of racism. Therefore, you are also correct, in that statements such as max made do tend to become ammunition against us, but only because the left is operating on Pavlovian principles of mass manipulation at an emotive rather than rational level, not because there is anything truly racist in what max said.
newbie...lol...you been here a whole less than two years and I have been here almost three months and that makes you an old timer? You use leftist language, you moron. Saying black conservative is one thing. Saying he was elevated to his position because of his race is another thing. Calling him the “token black” is straight out of the left’s playbook. He is a RINO. He also isnt very conservative. We are all disgusted by his very non-conservative statements. You calling him a “token black” contributes to those who view crap like you say to conservatives being racist.
since late 2007, and you think your an old timer going to tell me what to do...lol...buy a clue about saying leftist talking points before you post.
So why not describe Steele in those terms instead of throwing out liberal talking points, such as “token black GOP”? When people use leftist talking points to make their point, they have also made it ammunition. Use conservative points and language, instead of the lefts.
“Technically, he is not being racist; he is describing GOP racism” ??? WTF is that supposed to mean?
I don’t recognize “token black” as a liberal talking point per se. I suppose when liberals use it, it means a person hired just to paper over raced-biased hiring. As max used it, it was a plausible accusation that the GOP had cynically used race rather than pure qualification for the job in selecting Steele. Max may or may not be right about that, but I believe it is reading him wrong to take that expression as an “openly racist” comment, as you suggest. It is just max saying the GOP made a decision unduly influenced by race. There is nothing racist about making such a statement.
So, to me, “token black” is a dual-use term. It depends on the context. Words is words, and conservatives should not have to worry about getting locked into specific verbal formulas as long as the ideas they express retain their conservative core. Free speech means free word choice. If it doesn’t fly, fine. Try something different. But I got what he was saying (max, you can jump in anytime ...). I don’t think this is as hard as you’re making it, and I really don’t think that as conservatives we should be stirring up conflict among ourselves where none is necessary. Fighting over this is ridiculous. We have much bigger fish to fry.
Here is the answer to your question about how to become a precinct chair.
http://www.resistnet.com/group/invadethegop/forum/topics/becoming-a-precinct
Thank you!
Ok, here is another question. If you become a precint chair in your precinct, are you bound to vote in the general election for the Republican even if they turn out to be a super liberal? I guess I’m thinking of a case like this Doug Hoffman case in NY, where he might actually have a chance of winning, would being a precint chair cause you to have to commit to voting for someone like Dede Scozzfava if someone like that ends up getting nominated to be the Republican candidate? I don’t think that would happen where I live but am interested in how that works.
LMAO!
Using the word “racist” and flipping it out faster than Sharpton and that’s conservative? . Nice try trollbie.
Take a hike, newbie.
“Ok, here is another question. If you become a precint chair in your precinct, are you bound to vote in the general election for the Republican even if they turn out to be a super liberal?”
No party affiliation compels one to vote party line. Period. What you vote is your secret ballot.
What I understand is Hoffman was in the running for the GOP nod for the special election. But Scozzfava had a political name branding and some supporters, shady as they may be. So she got the party nomination. Apparently there were not enough conservative precinct chairs to override the nomination process..
But Hoffman felt he had enough support on ideology to overcome not being name branded party so he went independent and filed as a Conservative Party Candidate. The so called “Rockefeller” Republicans only wanted a name with the (R) stamp for the appearance that would deceive some, unfortunately uninformed voters to pull the Republican lever.
I would only commit to voting for who matches best my ideology as a conservative. If someone don’t make the grade, it is my free choice to look (and vote) for someone else. The day of holding my nose to vote, so a political hack “chosen” by people who otherwise have no interest in me or my opinions is over. Done.
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