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What Do Americans Believe About Creationism and Evolution?</
john in springfield | 10/23/2009 | jis (vanity)

Posted on 10/23/2009 8:18:13 PM PDT by john in springfield

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To: Buck W.; john in springfield
"He copied me on his lame outburst. I guess he was proud of it—I just chuckled."

It is a common tactic among the YEC types to bait, insult and tattle to mods if there is a response in kind. Initially I was shocked, then insulted, now indifferent. I continue to read the threads and post, but will no longer respond to the chest thumping, feces throwing, red-assed alpha male types. It just isn't Christian.

221 posted on 10/25/2009 8:55:25 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Buck W.
Read it, Buck, it specifically refers to wolves in sheep's clothing such as yourself. And like all wolves sporting sheep's clothing, you can't contain your hatred for the Christian's who unmasked you.


222 posted on 10/25/2009 8:56:15 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

More silly pictures from the contemptible fraud. Yes, the passage from Matthew addresses you perfectly.


223 posted on 10/25/2009 8:58:58 PM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Natural Law; john in springfield

“I continue to read the threads and post, but will no longer respond...”

I admire your restraint!


224 posted on 10/25/2009 9:00:43 PM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Buck W.
"And like all wolves sporting sheep's clothing, you can't contain your hatred for the Christian's who unmasked you."

And of course he means that in the most nonjudgmental, Christian of ways. After all, he is not here judge, but to be judged. Let's hope some day he will convert to real Christianity.

225 posted on 10/25/2009 9:03:16 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Buck W.
"I admire your restraint!"

Once I realized exactly what I was dealing with I decided that I wouldn't stoop to that level. Why bother when there are so many adults with which to exchange thoughts and ideas without getting an un-Christian blow-back. I'm pretty sure he really believes that Jesus is smiling on his conduct.

226 posted on 10/25/2009 9:07:35 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Buck W.
The only way that would be possible is if you were looking directly into the mirror, in which case you would be seeing this:


227 posted on 10/25/2009 9:10:48 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Wacka

That was just totally hilarious. Thanks for posting it!!


228 posted on 10/25/2009 9:18:45 PM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: Buck W.
"More silly pictures from the contemptible fraud."

The one thing that antagonizes his type more than anything else is the fact that educated, pious Christians can and do hold that creation and evolution do coexist. Many, including over a billion Catholics, believe that evolution is the process created and then used by God to bring man and ultimately His Son into a dynamic universe.

The Catholic Church holds that "It [the Bible] is a religious book, and consequently one cannot obtain information about the natural sciences from it. One cannot get from it a scientific explanation of how the world arose; one can only glean religious experience from it. Anything else is an image and a way of describing things whose aim is to make profound realities graspable to human beings. One must distinguish between the form of portrayal and the content that is portrayed. The form would have been chosen from what was understandable at the time -- from the images which surrounded the people who lived then, which they used in speaking and in thinking, and thanks to which they were able to understand the greater realities. And only the reality that shines through these images would be what was intended and what was truly enduring. Thus Scripture would not wish to inform us about how the different species of plant life gradually appeared or how the sun and the moon and the stars were established. Its purpose ultimately would be to say one thing: God created the world.

229 posted on 10/25/2009 9:19:36 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law

Roman Catholicism and Genesis

A review of The Doctrines of Genesis 1–11: A Compendium and Defense of Traditional Catholic Theology on Origins by Fr Victor P. Warkulwiz

http://creation.com/review-doctrines-of-genesis-1-11-warkulwiz


230 posted on 10/25/2009 9:31:18 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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This is cool.

Now when someone asks me what I believe, I’ll have some links to point to.


231 posted on 10/25/2009 9:53:57 PM PDT by NicknamedBob (Obam Government says, "Get used to being poor." / America responds, "Ain't gonna happen.")
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To: GodGunsGuts

If you can agree to a dialog without antagonism and insult I will respond. Although the Catholic Church harbors a diversity of opinion, the positions expressed by Fr. Warulwiz do not represent anything other than a small minority of Catholics and do not represent the position of the Church. The citation in post 239 is by Pope Benedict XVI and echos the position of Pope John Paul II before the Pontifical Academy of Sciences in 1996.


232 posted on 10/25/2009 9:57:11 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law

“The Catholic Church holds that “It [the Bible] is a religious book, and consequently one cannot obtain information about the natural sciences from it.”

Very true. However, GGG and the crew refuse to acknowledge that Catholics are Christians.


233 posted on 10/25/2009 10:01:47 PM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Natural Law

It is always you who leads off with the insults, so I’m not sure why your directing your plea for dialogue at me. At any rate, according to Fr Victor P. Warkulwiz the historic position of the Catholic Church has always been biblical YEC. Have you read the book, btw. If you haven’t, perhaps you should...who knows, you might even change your mind about a few things.


234 posted on 10/25/2009 10:05:12 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Buck W.; Natural Law
Repeating the same lie over and over long after it has been exposed as a lie is another sign (as if we needed any more!) that Buck W. is one of these:


235 posted on 10/25/2009 10:07:57 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Buck W.
"GGG and the crew refuse to acknowledge that Catholics are Christians."

Catholics are a conundrum for GGG and his posse. They will find one or two Catholics out of the main stream that they will agree with on the issue of creation, and them declare them heretics when a their interpretation of Apostolic Succession, Sola Scriptura or the five points of Calvinism is raised.

236 posted on 10/25/2009 10:09:28 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law

So much for your phony plea for “dialogue.”


237 posted on 10/25/2009 10:11:12 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
"At any rate, according to Fr Victor P. Warkulwiz the historic position of the Catholic Church has always been biblical YEC."

Do you agree with Fr. Warkulwiz's positions on Apostolic Succession too? I have read the book as well as the encyclical Humani Generis that it was based upon. Whats your point? I have also read the Inquisition Minutes and Decree of the 1616 trial of Galileo. Do you think that the Church still holds that the sun revolves around the earth?

238 posted on 10/25/2009 10:26:23 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: GodGunsGuts
"So much for your phony plea for “dialogue.”"

You just couldn't help yourself, could you?

239 posted on 10/25/2009 10:29:07 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law

For one brief moment there, it looked as if GGG might actually engage in some real and adult dialogue...


240 posted on 10/25/2009 10:31:31 PM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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