Posted on 10/20/2009 5:11:26 AM PDT by crazyhorse691
They can’t even get tomorrow’s weather correct and they expect me to believe they know what’s going to happen to the climate 20 years from now? Give me a break.
The acceleration of an object due to earth's gravity was predicted by Newton long before scientists even contemplated calculating the earth's mass. And in fact the calculation of an object in earth's gravitational field is independent of the earth's mass. And it was the observation of the motion that lead to the calculation of the earth's mass, not the other way around.
Excellent debunking of the global warming “consensus” can be found in Chill: A Reassessment of Global Warming Theory, Does Climate Change Mean the World Is Cooling, and If So What Should We Do About It? by Peter Taylor.
From amazon:
“Although the world’s climate has undergone many cyclical changes, the phrase ‘climate change’ has taken on a sinister meaning, implying catastrophe for humanity, ecology and the environment. We are told that we are responsible for this threat, and that we should act immediately to prevent it. But the apparent scientific consensus over the causes and effects of climate change is not what it appears. “Chill” is a critical survey of the subject by a committed environmentalist and scientist. Based on extensive research, it reveals a disturbing collusion of interests responsible for creating a distorted understanding of changes in global climate. Scientific institutions, basing their work on critically flawed computer simulations and models, have gained influence and funding. In return they have allowed themselves to be directed by the needs of politicians and lobbyists for simple answers, slogans and targets. The resulting policy - a 60 percent reduction of greenhouse-gas emissions by 2050 - would have a huge, almost unimaginable, impact upon landscape, community and biodiversity. On the basis of his studies of satellite data, cloud cover, ocean and solar cycles, Peter Taylor concludes that the main driver of recent global warming has been an unprecedented combination of natural events. His investigations indicate that the current threat facing humanity is a period of cooling, as the cycle turns, comparable in severity to the Little Ice Age of 1400-1700 AD. The risks of such cooling are potentially greater than global warming and on a more immediate time scale, with the possibility of failing harvests leaving hundreds of millions vulnerable to famine. Drawing on his experience of energy policy and sustainability, Taylor suggests practical steps that should be taken now. He urges a shift away from mistaken policies that attempt to avert inevitable natural changes, to an adaptation to a climate that may turn significantly cooler.”
Bottom line: Changes in cloud cover explain the warming to 1998 and the cooling since that time.
Fail.
How can she make such a bald and ridiculus statement. The average surface temp. is constantly changing both before and after the Ind. Rev.
The question isn't whether the models match historic data but rather can the models PREDICT future data. To date the answer on that is a flat out NO.
This is only about power. Power taken away from us and given to pin heads like the author who will grow fat while producing nothing.
This is the same method that is used for all other points of propaganda: attempting to make those who disagree feel alone, out of step, uninformed. There’s an enormous level of agreement, apparently, not just about global warming, but also about health care, and how phenomenal our President is, and ‘undocumented workers’, and etc. Along with the implied ‘concensus’ is the corollary: ‘and you are stupid and/or extremist and/or a whackjob if you don’t agree.’
Yes, That’s correct. And before the last Ice Age the co2 levels were higher than now. There was still an Ice Age. We are due for another one, and it will happen again, they are like clockwork.
I think the calculations of co2 impact are exagerated anyway. Methane is the one to fear.
A cold winter forecast for the North & East this year.
- And still no sunspots
Mind you, she is kind of cute:
Consensus gave us the flat Earth "science," Earth as the center of the Universe "science"...
Consensus isn't science. It is just the opinion of holier-than-thou pointy headed libtard acamedians looking for grant money.
Why not a Big Ice Age?
I see zero discussion of this issue. The present interglacial period is already considerably past the average length for interglacials.
Is there any particular reason to think we aren't going into a Real Ice Age?
Except the fact that the consequences will be so catastrophic nobody wants to think about it.
Unfortunately, OregonLive has a devoted following of PDX libtard mouthbreathers eager to jump on anyone who does not worship the progressive orthodoxy.
As evidenced by near-sighted groundhogs.
Forget it...she probably won’t date anything to the right of Karl Marx(Reed College is a very radical place).
The dear lady might want to consider that perhaps the climate models agree because all of their creators are attempting to demonstrate the same outcome. In other words, they are biased, a very common attribute of science that must be guarded against.
She can see no other explanation for global warming since 1850 but the hand of man. Man may indeed play some role, but I can’t help thinking that perhaps the emergence of the planet from the so called “Little Ice Age” and a return the warmer norms of earlier eras might have something to do with it.
She’s a kool aid drinker and I’m sure that makes her very popular on campus and at conferences.
Those replies are frightening.
There’s some good ones in there but most are “Bravo, tell those deniers a thing or two about a thing or two”
Scientists look for truth. Politicians establish consensus. As long as these "scientists" keep acting like politicians and don't look for the truth, I'll lend no credence to what they're trying to sell.
These "scientists" are nothing more than whores, bought and paid for by the communist green lobby through government grants. They are quite willing to tell their johns, from "Nobel laureate" algore on down, what they want to hear, and thus participate in the dismantling of the economies and living standards of the entire developed world for the sake of a hoax, just for a little cash. They are all beneath contempt.
Well, Dr Fry...there is a new theory out...maybe the sun has something to do with warming cooling of the planet. Hmmm, revolutionary idea...has to be radical.
I need someone more artistic than myself to come up with a design. “Stop Global Warming: Snuff the Sun.”
Those replies are frightening
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