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Judge Land Fines Orly Taitz $20K, File Copy of Order with State Bar of CA
United States District Court (Georgia) ^ | 10/13/2009 | Judge Clay Land

Posted on 10/13/2009 7:45:31 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan

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To: Ratman83

NJ allowed Roger Calero on the bellot for president and he is not a NBC so no one checks. That does not make it right.


Neither New Jersey nor Calero had the Director of the state Health Department which issued the Birth Certificate vouch for its authenticity, twice.
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen.

I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago...”


301 posted on 10/13/2009 11:05:42 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: mlo

That is what’s telling.

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Hardly.

What’s telling is that answering that question
would certainly lend more confidence or not in
the multitudes of lawyerly comments you make every
day, day and night, on multitudes of threads
dealing with this issue.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:mlo/index?brevity=full;tab=comments

And yet you refuse to answer that last tidbit
that, if in the positive, would imbue your
comments with some level of respective expertise
and confidence that would achieve that.

Again, curious.


302 posted on 10/13/2009 11:06:56 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: jamese777

I understand that but that is also in the courts.


303 posted on 10/13/2009 11:08:11 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: ClayinVA

There are a number of high profile environut cases that were tossed by the Supreme Court based on standing.


304 posted on 10/13/2009 11:08:15 AM PDT by kukaniloko
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To: mlo

When you say no law was violated, sounds to me like you believe the current prez what properly vetted by every sec of state. Dang, they could have save the tax payers millions of dollars by showing us their documentation.


305 posted on 10/13/2009 11:08:18 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: STARWISE

Again, trying to make me the issue. You are free to disagree with anything I write. And you do. Argue the issues, not the freeper.


306 posted on 10/13/2009 11:08:38 AM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo

Each state has its own laws governing the SOS and the elections boards. Multiple states already have the language in their election laws that allow for them to check the eligibility. I pointed out those laws last week. And obviously, even those without specific vetting requirements have the luxury to vet if a question arises. And have done so on multiple occasions.

Regardless, that will be of import in 2012.

Right now, we will continue to vet your faux president for you. You’re welcome.


307 posted on 10/13/2009 11:08:48 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: kukaniloko

No. I’m advocating following the Constitutional requirement for age, years living here, and Natural Born status to the letter. No more, no less.


308 posted on 10/13/2009 11:10:34 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
"When you say no law was violated, sounds to me like you believe the current prez what properly vetted by every sec of state."

If "properly" means they followed the law, then yes. They did.

If "properly" means they demanded the proof you demand, then no, they didn't. But what you demand is not the law. That's the point.

309 posted on 10/13/2009 11:10:55 AM PDT by mlo
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To: montag813

LOL!! ROFL!!!

310 posted on 10/13/2009 11:13:02 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent Design -- "A Wizard Did It")
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To: mlo

Do you have an example of a sec of state showing that the current prez is eligible? They can’t know if a candidate is eligible without vetting him first.


311 posted on 10/13/2009 11:14:35 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: El Sordo
Dang it, man! Now you’re a troll too.

We're all trolls on this bus.

312 posted on 10/13/2009 11:16:11 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent Design -- "A Wizard Did It")
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To: pissant

So showing a birth certificate would not be “to the letter” unless you are advocating a living Constitution.


313 posted on 10/13/2009 11:16:56 AM PDT by kukaniloko
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To: ClayinVA
Personally, the Federal Bar was an embarrassment to begin with, Standing issues only seem to come up when it is the Right that has a problem with it. I never hear about Standing being a problem when the Left goes to court. How rare is it when an Abortion, Environmental, or Civil Rights case is dismissed for Standing? It is amazing what a Lawyer can torture out of a very simple document and it has become a self-repeating process as those same lawyers become Judges or Senators.

For the most part, standing works as a key to the courthouse door to prevent interlopers from profiting from situations in which they have no personal stake in the outcome that is distinct from the public at large. Standing, however, is sometimes imperfectly applied; and in those cases when the district court judge makes a mistake, the appropriate response is not to call the judge a traitor or threaten more lawsuits, but to take an appeal.

FYI -- Environmental cases are rarely dismissed for lack of standing because Congress has written provisions into many of the environmental laws that grant standing to just about anyone to enforce the particular environmental law or regulation. Abortionists generally have standing to challenge laws that restrict abortion because they are in the business of performing abortions and have a direct stake in the outcome of the case. Civil Rights cases rely upon organizations like the ACLU that hunt for the perfect plaintiff that has a direct and personal interest in the outcome of the litigation.

If you want to give specific examples of cases where the court, in your opinion, improperly granted or denied standing, I will do my best to explain why. But discussing the concept of standing in the abstract is a losing battle.

314 posted on 10/13/2009 11:17:32 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: mlo

Wait, to quote pissant to save time, “age, years living here, and Natural Born status to the letter. No more, no less.”, that’s not the law?


315 posted on 10/13/2009 11:18:28 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: LorenC

Are you crazy or new here? We are not the original birthers.

John McCain’s Natural Born Status was brought up way before Barry O. and the Senate passed a resolution recognizing his status.

He provided record after record and a Birth Certificiate.

Barry O. provides a Day pass to Disney Land with less information than your or my Birth Certificate and you want to give him a pass?

I mean really, it is an incomplete record and who names race as African? It is not a race nor is it a country.

How come his records and only his records, from kindergarten are missing? That would have a Birth Certificate, vaccinations, etc.

How come he didn’t produce the birth certificate he used to obtain his first passport and gain admission to college.

Any reason why he didn’t produce the one he found among his mother’s belongings upon her death? It seemed pretty important to him as he wrote specifically about in his book.

In regards to the other candidates, there is little doubt as to where they were born or their singular status of nationality.

With Barry O. we don’t know and only have his word to go on.

When people do things that just aren’t reality based and are shaded lies that is when the questioning begins.

He has three Birth Certificates in his possession and should have presented one of those and then we would have no choice but to accept it.

We wouldn’t be sitting here asking where is the record of this man.

I know the High School and College grades of each man you listed. Heck we have their transcripts.

Why has Barry O. decided his life is such a mystery and what is he hiding?

Free the Long Form! (as another Freeper says)


316 posted on 10/13/2009 11:19:14 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: kukaniloko

A secretary of state demanding proof of citizenship, age etc does not equate with living constitution.


317 posted on 10/13/2009 11:20:50 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: kukaniloko

That would be the most logical way and cheapest way. If the family recorded his birth in their Koran or the doctors/nurses/hospital who delivered him want to give sworn testimony, then that’s fine too.


318 posted on 10/13/2009 11:20:58 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: STARWISE

Don’t forget the DOJ is paying folks to spread disinformation on the Internet regarding pending cases. Some of the folks posting pro-usurper comments to FR could actually be paid by DOJ disinfo operations.


319 posted on 10/13/2009 11:21:32 AM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: presently no screen name; Non-Sequitur

Well Said


320 posted on 10/13/2009 11:21:41 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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