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It's a fork, it's a spoon....it's a weapon
New York Times ^ | 10/12/2009 | IAN URBINA

Posted on 10/12/2009 9:10:49 AM PDT by IbJensen

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To: wtc911
THUD
41 posted on 10/12/2009 10:40:24 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: GOYAKLA

Some of the worst injuries I remember a occurring during my school years were three incidents not involving banned items.

One: a sharpened pencil that two bullies made an awkward
student sit on one jr high study hall. They were expelled.

Two: a girl was thrown through a plate glass window during the race riots.

Three: a boy was knocked unconscious with a pipe from the stage theater scaffolding during the race riots.

I remember only one incident, also in junior high were about five girls were involved in a fight with razor blades — I do not remember hearing the injury report on that one.


42 posted on 10/12/2009 10:45:11 AM PDT by bvw
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To: GOYAKLA

Yes, I have heard the injury reports as a sub teacher of kids getting clobbered by book bags. The kid in Chicago was killed using a non-banned “weapon” — a loose piece of lumber. ANYTHING can used as a weapon.


43 posted on 10/12/2009 10:48:29 AM PDT by bvw
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To: IbJensen

..Zachary wears sometimes wears a suit and tie...
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

The REAL reason Zachary is gone.

Can’t have him showing up all the other yutes.
Bet he washes every day and does his homework and calls the teachers Mrs/Miss/Ma’am or whatever is appropriate.
Can’t have any of that manners and culture rub off on anybody.

(Some) Teachers probably don’t know what to think of it either.


44 posted on 10/12/2009 10:51:09 AM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98 )VOTE THE INCUMBENTS OUT)
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To: camle
“ever notice how the zero-tolerance folks never, ever hassle the real thugs and only seem to harrass the honor students?”

That's because the real thugs, their “parents”, or both would catch those zero-tolerance folks and deliver a beating. A short stay in jail would only raise their street cred. Its far easier and safer to go after someone like this kid.

45 posted on 10/12/2009 10:56:24 AM PDT by Polynikes (Viene una tormenta)
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To: bvw

A weird sub-hobby of mine is day dreaming of weaponry one can make of everyday items. When shopping with wife I’m constantly looking for items to use if confronted by a threat.
When looking around one can see many things one can use.
But I guess that is the evil in me.


46 posted on 10/12/2009 11:08:53 AM PDT by GOYAKLA
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To: IbJensen
Parents need to insist that a zero tolerance policy be strictly enforced.

So, no more pencils, pens, combs, shoe laces, belts, scarfs, balls, or bats. The Admin. needs to police the campus every day for rocks, sticks, etc. before school starts. All school supplies should be inventoried daily to assure no one has pilfered something to be used as a weapon. In the classroom, there can be no rulers, books, plastic bags, purses, or anything else that a “reasonable” person might consider a weapon, which is any hard or sharp object.

All persons entering the school must submit to a full body search including a body cavity search. Everyone will remove & exchange their clothing for prison style garb & flip-flops.

You want zero tolerance? You got it!

Given the current propensity of teachers & school staff to molest students, zero tolerance will apply to school staff as well as students. Any staff member who violates zero tolerance will be immediately fired. Staff can expect their personal property & car to be searched daily. After all, an adult with a jar of paste is far more dangerous than a 6 year old. Staff should be prohibited from bringing ANY type of meds to school, such as aspirin, Rolaids, etc. Searches will be done daily. Zero tolerance MEANS ZERO TOLERANCE!

If parents would INSIST that zero tolerance be applied to EVERYONE & EVERYTHING at school, this BS would stop pronto!

Then we can return to the good old system of favoritism for athletes & ass kissers, & perhaps INTENT can again be considered in finding guilt.

47 posted on 10/12/2009 11:19:46 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“And don’t forget, the Cub Scouts are on the liberal ($***) List because of the Boy Scout organization ban on homosexuals. So the same people who can’t use common sense about this dangerous “weapon” in school also hate the Boy Scout organization and everything it stands for. That too could have given them incentive to make an example of this boy.”

Exactly what I was going to say.


48 posted on 10/12/2009 11:32:27 AM PDT by mombyprofession
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To: FreedomHammer

public school ping


49 posted on 10/12/2009 11:33:09 AM PDT by mombyprofession
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To: Polynikes

I agree.

But also, I think in their effort to treat everyone “equally”, they go after the good kids to spread out the punishment among all social groups. That however, just tells ALL the kids that being good has no benefit. A good character has zero benefit in zero tolerance land. Might as well be a thug!


50 posted on 10/12/2009 11:37:19 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: GOYAKLA

I saw one of those “Inside Prison” shows that cured me of such mental wanmderings. Every prisoner spent all his hours doing exactly that. I decided I wasn’t going to waste the valuable and short awake hours of my mind towards such thing. Those prisoners had that niche filled.


51 posted on 10/12/2009 11:51:27 AM PDT by bvw
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To: IbJensen
Zero tolerance = zero intelligence. Great 'business model' for a school!
52 posted on 10/12/2009 12:17:51 PM PDT by Moltke (DOPE will get you 4 to 8 in the Big House - HOPE will get you 4 to 8 in the White House.)
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To: IbJensen

On wonders how much trouble he would have been in had he made a comment about eating a Brownie.


53 posted on 10/12/2009 12:23:00 PM PDT by kukaniloko
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To: camle
basically it’s a jack knife with attachments a la “swiss army”. the kid shouldn’t have taken it to school. that sadi, the admin should have behaved with wisdom and told the six year old that these type things are not permitted in school, confiscated it ultil after school, and let the matter drop.

Nonsense on both counts.

The "rule" is asinine, and should be repealed.

54 posted on 10/12/2009 12:27:24 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
What the parents should do is go through the lunchroom, especially if hot meals are served and demand in inventory of all the silverware in the place; daily.

If so much as a paring knife is found the entire Kitchen staff should be fired.

L

55 posted on 10/12/2009 12:29:28 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

re: brought .22 rifles to school for after class target shooting with the Scouts

HB Plant HS in Tampa had a shooting range, right beside the HS gym, for use by the ROTC program. Used to fire all sorts of weapons there. It was out in the open, with a short wall on two sides and a higher wall at the target end.


56 posted on 10/12/2009 12:31:39 PM PDT by jwparkerjr (God Bless America, and wake us up while you're about it!)
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To: IbJensen

The Superintendent:

http://www.christina.k12.de.us/Superintendent/index.htm

From the NYT article:

“Education experts say that zero-tolerance policies initially allowed authorities more leeway in punishing students, but were applied in a discriminatory fashion. Many studies indicate that African-Americans were several times more likely to be suspended or expelled than other students for the same offenses.”

Conclusion: The scout got busted to make a quota.


57 posted on 10/12/2009 1:03:04 PM PDT by Liberty Ship ("Lord, make me fast and accurate.")
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