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Israel gets two German submarines
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Posted on 09/30/2009 12:31:14 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker

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To: NativeNewYorker; Jeff Head
Dolphin class submarine project
41 posted on 09/30/2009 1:51:59 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: SycoDon

The Israelis used surplus German BF-109’s during their War for Independence.


42 posted on 09/30/2009 2:21:42 PM PDT by rsquare (is it 2012 yet?)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine
Israeli Type 800 Dolphin class submarines specifications:

Specifications
Displacement 1640 surfaced
1,720-1900 [est] submerged
Propulsion Diesel-electric 3 diesels, 1 shaft, 4,243 shp
Length 57.3 m (188ft)
Beam 6.8 m (22.6ft)
Draft 6.2 m (20.5ft)
Height 12.7 m
Speed 20 knots submerged
11 knots snorkeling
Sonar PRS-3 passive ranging sonar
Operating Depth Deeper than 200m (600 feet)
Armament
  • 6 x 21 inch (533mm) torpedo tubes (14 torpedoes & Harpoon SSM) German-built
  • 4 x 25.6 inch (650mm) bow torpedo tubes
  • 6 reloads
Crew 35
Range 4500 miles at 8 knots
Provision More than one month

In addition, it is generally understood, based on tests the Israelis performed in 2000 in the Indian Ocean, that these subs also a new Israeli carry cruise missiles capable of carrying nuclear warhead. Ranges estimated between 1500 and 2000 km.

43 posted on 09/30/2009 2:25:17 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head
Popeye Turbo
44 posted on 09/30/2009 2:39:51 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: Jeff Head
The reported range of 1,500 km for the SLCM tested in May 2000 is several times greater than the previously reported range for the Popeye Turbo. However, the Popeye Turbo is a poorly attested missile, and the open literature provides little information on this system. Indeed, because of the small size of the vehicle and the limited testing program to date, it is entirely possible that even the US intelligence community has only limited insight into the capabilities of this system. There is no particular reason to doubt that Israel could develop a variant of the Popeye Turbo with a range of 1,500 km, simply by lengthening the fuel tank associated with a 300-350 km variant reported by US intelligence. At present it is not possible to determine whether the US intelligence has under-estimated the range of this missile, or whether news reports have over-estimated the missile's range. The longer range reported in June 2000 is certainly consistent with Israeli targeting requirements.

45 posted on 09/30/2009 2:46:08 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: Jeff Head

These are the “old” Dolphin class submarines, the new ones with the (Siemens?) AIP should have vastly improved operational capabilities. Germany’s own type 212A submarines (using a different hull, but similar engines) have a range of 8,000 miles and an endurance of 12 weeks (3 without snorkeling).


46 posted on 09/30/2009 3:16:40 PM PDT by wolf78 (Inflation is a form of taxation, too. Cranky Libertarian - equal opportunity offender.)
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To: GeronL; B-Chan

The +10 typically refers to special ops personnel. Most Type-209/212/214 class boats have a complement of about 25-35 crew.


47 posted on 10/01/2009 4:30:38 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: NativeNewYorker; M. Espinola; the invisib1e hand; Jeff Head; FromLori; Liz; SJackson; ...
This video is a call to action. Must see this:

Israel Cannot Survive the 'Two State Solution'

This proposal is a massive fraud. Obama wants to wipe out Israel just like Ahmadinejad. Why -- Oh why did Jewish voters support Obama in the last election ____________ ? Totally insane foreign and domestic policies and pure out-of-control Nazi-like goose stepping prevails in DC.

48 posted on 10/01/2009 7:42:26 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

No, it’s Sayaret Matkal commandos.

Transport commandos aboard subs. Nothing new about that.


49 posted on 10/25/2009 3:41:15 PM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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