Posted on 09/24/2009 6:08:52 AM PDT by xcamel
It's posted in "News and Activism", and it's not news.
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What happens if the evidence says you take issue with "petty and false" claims by "evos", and disregard comments by cretionists that are objectively no less so?
Creationism is the practice of squeeezing one's eyes shut and wailing "DOES NOT!"
You might wanna check out who posted the thread- but yeah- it is news- news stories focus o nthese issues all the time- pick up any news paper-
[[What happens if the evidence says you take issue with “petty and false” claims by “evos”, and disregard comments by cretionists that are objectively no less so?]]
That is between those who say such things in threads and discussions that I am involved in- and I’ve also pointed out many itmes here on FR when Creationists say soemthign that isn’t true. I don’t espouse callign all evos atheists, Heathens, or Godless Guppies or Nazis, and when I see it said- I make it a point to point out the Evos can infact be saved, but misinformed- For htem ostp art though it is the evos like some in htis thread that attack every one of GGG’s threads with nothign but petty and false accusations- and that mostly is what I focus on- their’s is a never ending vitriol, lacking in factual evidence, and amounts to nothign but continual spurious drivel which I take issue with- the kicker is that htey get all self-sanctimonious AFTER spouting hteir nonsense, and say thigns like ‘Can’t we just have a civil conversation’? lol A smile to our face, a knife in the back
Your religious beliefs are not news.
[[Your religious beliefs are not news.]]
Again Tactic- It was not my ‘religious views’ which were posted in this thread topic- Are you now declaring noone can post hteir religious views in any thread outside of the religion forum? This htread was about attacking Creationists- posted by your fellow evo- I am simply responding to hte article and to the false claims made throughout- Are you goign to whine about religious views possted in response to articles presented from here on out? Seems liek you’;re runnign out of htigns to bitch about
[[Your religious beliefs are not news.]]
And while my ‘religious beleifs’ may not be news- News DOES confirm God’s word time and time again, and Science DOES confirm God’s word tiem and time again, and hwne soemthign in the news confirms God’s word, it is noteworthy and worth discussing- And just for hte record JR has Given folks like GGG permission to post their htreads, whatever the topic, wherever they see fit- This is a public forum, and JR has stated that if folks like you don’t like it- then too bad- we’ll discuss what we want, where we want- when we want- Your world isn’t goign ot fall apart because peopel don’t play by your own perceived set of rules- calm down
Yours isn’t going to fall apart if everybody doesn’t go along with your “news” ploy as an excuse to trash other people’s religious beliefs.
[[Yours isn’t going to fall apart if everybody doesn’t go along with your “news” ploy as an excuse to trash other people’s religious beliefs.]]
Lol- Trash’ other people’s religious beleif= Translation = Exposing error apparently means ‘trashing’- Cry me a river
Lol- Trash’ other people’s religious beleif= Translation = Exposing error apparently means ‘trashing’- Cry me a river
Petty and false.
This topic was origianlly about trashing creationists, but you havwe tried to turn this thread aroudn by focussing on whether or not I shoudl have the right to expose error when it crops up- It seems you feel you have the right to dictate what is said and what isn’t said on FR- per usual- Darwinists trying to shut down ALL debate and discussion- first in the schools, now, apparently, on privately owned websites too- Lemme know when YOU start paying the bills associated with the website, and then you can form your own rules and regulations- Till then- When I see error- False claims- and petty accusations with no factual basis levelled against Creationists and ID folks and True Christianity- I’ll confront it regardless of whether that is alright with you or not- It’s apparent you aren’t itnerested in the thread topic- and feel perfectly at ease with off topic discussion of YOUR choosing, but when it comes to Creationsits, True Christians, ID folks, apparently you have a different set of rules- whatever- I had commented to you earlier that you were one of them ore civil evos that I’ve discussed thigns with in the past, but your petty obsession with what I post and why and where I post them is quickly changing my mind about you-
It seems there’s a new tactic being employed by you evos these days, and that is one of tryign to shut down al;l debate in anythign but the religious threads by whining about religious views being expressed in news section (although you say nothign when people callign htemselves Christians, but who obviously don’t follow God’s word post info contrary to God’s word- it seems your obsession, and apaprent outrage, is selective)- Apaprently shutting down evidence agaisnt Macroevolution is schools isn’t enough for you folks- apparently you all feel the need to dictate what gets posted and where on sites that don’t belong to you as well- Yay- so much fun listenign to the never ceasing whining and complaining about hte ‘news section’
The topic was originally an article about a college professor who is the author of a theory imposing an academic requirement on his students to publicly defend and promogulate that theory.
[[Petty and false.]]
Yes- petty and false- and they know it- When you deny God’s word, you certainly can NOT claim to be a representative of God’s word or of His people, and htose bringing spurious accusatiosn against Creationists ARE beign petty, and ARE bringing false claism that have been refuted time and time again here on FR- and when I see that I will point it out everytime as just that- petty and false- They don’t just have a ‘difference of theological opinion’ what they bring to hte table are denials of God’s word and accusatyions that are NOT true accordign to God’s word- If that FACT doesn’t sit well with htem- then oh well- I coudl care less because they certainly could care less about how True Christians beleive and why, and if that doesn’t sit well with you as well, again, I coudl care less- You asked what it would take to have a civil conversation, and I pointed out it will certainly take more than petty and false accusations- and I stand by that- they can step up their discussion maturity, or I can answer them in like kind- either way- I don’t really care- they want an A game discussion, then bring an A game argument free from petty and false accusations that have been refuted time and time again here on FR- pretty simple really!
The beauty of freedom of religion is that you get to profess your own beliefs. With rights come responsibilities. The responsibility that comes with the right to profess your own is that you don’t get to do it for others.
I'll second that. What the heck are you talking about?
I went back through the posts leading up to this one and there's nothing in it makes your statement make any sense.
For one thing, what *that* are you referring to when you said...."Submitting that in the context of political activism amounts to establishing an official religion. "
You mean that atheists don't have the right to file lawsuits against schools to keep creation and Christianity out any more?
Good.
"That" is the statement you're agreeing with. Do you believe that scientific claims based on evidence known to be false should be prosecutable as criminal fraud?
I doubt if what I meant is going to be of any consequence.
[[The responsibility that comes with the right to profess your own is that you don’t get to do it for others.]]
Lol- Golly- I didn’t read the ‘rules manual’ for life where it states that when people are in error- and when they claim to be of your religion, that you must never, ever, under any circumstances, point it out to them and to others- Get over yourself- When someoen IS in error I AM goign to point it out whether you like it or not- especially when their error is a direct assault on my God’s Word- Again- you apparently can’t stand being exposed, can’t stand that error is being excposed, and can’t stand that fact that peopel who beleive God’s word ARE goign to stand up for it when they encoutner someone who is espousing error- I have a responsiblity to my God, to His word to stand up for the truth when I see it being presented in error, and I WILL ALWAYS do so- without the need to ask you for your permission first- comprende? Again- please- cry me a river over the fact that I would dare point out obvious error in other’s statements- They are free to express what they like, and I am free to expose their error- regardless of whether you approve or not fella-
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