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$10,000 Sanction Proposed Against “Birther” Lawyer (Orly Taitz)
WRBL ^ | September 18, 2009 | Teresa Whitaker

Posted on 09/18/2009 4:09:29 PM PDT by GoldStandard

Edited on 09/18/2009 4:48:36 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Kolokotronis
The POTUS is not your employee. Where did you get that idea?

Oh, yes he is, whether I hired him or not, I still have to pay for his wages, benefits, and other arrangements, even if just a fraction of that.

161 posted on 09/19/2009 10:49:42 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: null and void

Sorry. I wasn’t thinking about other posts pushing it down the page. Here is the post.

Friday, September 18, 2009 4:17 PM
From:
This sender is DomainKeys verified
redacted
To:
dr_taitz@yahoo.com
This is unverified, but it is a blog entry that was just posted today on RepubX:

“I work for a major news company, however, I am unaware of the canadafreepress story that you refer to. I am forced to use masked, out of country, anonymous internet proxies just to post this blog. I don’t know whose lives are at risk, I don’t know the names of all of the lawmakers involved in the case. I have only been given vague information and that information has nervously come in bits and pieces from several credible sources and one lawmaker. I do know that, according to my sources that, the Barack Obama presidency is in serious question. My original source has become sources, and now more people are talking. Most of the insiders in Washington, California and Texas will shape how this will play out with Carter, Orly and Keyes. The Rhodes case is a last resort, a southern court, a southern judge, and a military officer refusing to deploy is a problem. But if Obama has any hand in dismissal, it will be known, and the bribed will be sought. Keyes vs. Obama will be the case I can most assure you. You have to understand that even though most of the concerned citizens want the story to come out now, there are federal agencies, and sectors within those agencies, who thankfully are currently disconnected from control and influence of the White House, who’s work is not finished. Most conservative and even liberal journalist alike are very desperate for the story, many of them want it to save their own careers which they know are now in question. I am getting hints that this all plays out in late Oct. I do however; expect to see more Obama documents released in the next 30 days.”

Stay Tuned


162 posted on 09/19/2009 10:53:36 AM PDT by moonpie57 ("Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." MLK)
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To: null and void
You do know the difference between accusations and facts don't you?

Yeah, do you?

But I'll play along. What accusations do you expect to be leveled against Captain Rhodes. Be specific.

163 posted on 09/19/2009 10:54:45 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Smokin' Joe
We don't have video of Obama being born in a Honolulu hospital, we don't have any witnesses.

Well, no witnesses if you ignore the initial reports from his relatives who where there when he was born in Kenya.

(In all fairness they did repudiate their statements when the implications were explained to them)

You should probably also ignore the fact that the first recorded itty-bitty baby Barack sighting was not in Hawaii, it was in Washington state, half an hour's drive from Vancouver, British Columbia, 2500 miles from where he was said to be born.

164 posted on 09/19/2009 10:54:50 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 241 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

No kidding.


165 posted on 09/19/2009 10:57:29 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 241 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Uncle Chip
Hedging again, are we??? "IF" ???? So then you don't know, right????

I know what he's said. I know what other's have said. And I know that to date you all haven't been able to come up with any evidence supporting your claims that he wasn't born in the U.S. Until someone can prove otherwise I'll accept that he was born where he and his COLB say he was.

Ohhh and then there is that word "appears"???? So then even IF he was born in Hawaii, it would just "appear" as if he is an NBC, right??

Am I confusing you? Poor baby. OK, I'll be more specific. If Obama was born in Hawaii then yes, he's a natural born citizen and Constitutionally eligible to be president. Happy now?

t's not a claim, remember??? Its an apparition. And Obama is your ghost. Happy Halloween.

The phantoms seems to be your legal cases against Obama.

166 posted on 09/19/2009 10:58:33 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: moonpie57

Thanks!


167 posted on 09/19/2009 10:59:36 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 241 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: little jeremiah; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; BP2; ...

I have come to the conclusion that it is past time to
CLOSE THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE LOOPHOLE!

Yes, we need to close the birth certificate loophole, as well as loopholes in candidate qualification verification – it cannot remain in the hand of the national political parties to vet the eligibility of their candidate! That’s like giving the felons the key to the prison.

Also, as we know, the MSM is so complicit with Obama and his Liberal agenda – we can’t trust the weak vetting process they conducted last spring. They have too much invested to turn on him now. That’s tantamount to admitting they were WRONG – and the media hates retractions.

And come onis there REALLY any doubt of the deceitfulness of the Democrats running Congress?

Is is at all reasonable to trust the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid to have properly verified the facts surrounding Obama’s birth?! That’s REALLY crazy – ironically, the same the label the Left flings at the “birthers”.

As I see it, there are four basic categories of “birthers”:
1) Orly defense birthers
2) Donofrio defense birthers
3) hybrid of 1 and 2
4) opportunists

Anyone following the events and courts knows of the first three categories of “birthers” as I'm defining them here, and those categories are self explanatory. Donofrio eschews the Orly defense. Ordinarily, I might agree, but looking at the prima facie and other circumstantial evidence surrounding Ann Dunham’s whereabouts in the first half of 1961, both defenses are valid. There are just too many unanswered questions regarding the specifics of Obama Jr’s birth. So, I personally fall into category #3.

But based upon the fallacious arguments we've seen of the TROLLs here on FR regarding the 14th Amendment, United States v. Wong Kim Ark, Immigration Law, etc., just about anyone could pop up with an abstract US birth certificate from Hawaii like Obama did and run for president in 2012and that’s a HUGH problem still. As much as I’m a staunch advocate of Privacy Rights, in this case, the public good outweighs the individual’s right to privacy. Too much is at stake, as we are seeing unfold on a daily basis.

Because the Left has attempted to marginalize “birthers”, the fourth category I’ve outlined – OPPORTUNISTS – are more numerous than we know. The Republicans in Congress know “something’s up” with Obama, but have been silenced with fear of reprisal from Obama’s Chicago mob squad that they hold their tongue.

I'm reminded somewhat of the vote on Monday (Sept 14) when the Senate voted on the Johanns Amendment to withheld ACORN funding. They've always KNOWN that ACORN was crooked, but were too afraid to be called racist or go against Obama's pet group. And when the vote came up, REAL TIME, many Democrat Senators voted it DOWN at first. Then as the Senators started talking amongst themselves on the floor – something AMAZING happened. Democrat Senators who at first voted AGAINST the Amendment to de-fund ACORN changed their vote!

If you missed this unusual event, read the second paragraph HERE (“I want to change my vote!”):
Breaking: Senate votes to cut off federal funding for ACORN.

A heard of politicians is like a heard of wildebeest – and few of them want to stand alone on such a divisive topic as Obama's birth certificate for fear of being attacked by a predator (in this case, the MSM, Obama supporters, etc).

It would be unsightly for a "distinguished statesman" to question the validity of a document offered forth by a fellow Senator. I'm HIGHLY confident that NONE of the members of Congress have seen Obama's Long Form birth certificate – and therein lies the problem. The Republicans in Congress also don’t want to be ostracized by the MSM – so they just don’t talk about Obama’s eligibility. That’s disingenuous too, but a topic for another conversation.

Opportunists don’t know the specifics of Obama’s birth as well as the other three categories, but would OPPORTUNISTICALLY jump on the “birther” bandwagon, once their doubts are confirmed. That’s why Orly and others need DISCOVERY to proceed.

On some level, most Americans perceive that “something’s up” with Barack Obama – and it’s not because of his race. In fact, it’s not a skin pigmentation issue in the slightest, rather an issue of the American values that Obama seems to be deficient. Obama just does not seem to be protecting the Constitution of the United States, or its sovereignty as a nation.

Go to a Teabag rally and you won’t see too many people publicly espousing doubts of Obama’s citizenship status – but it’s on nearly everyone’s mind!

Obama’s acts are SO un-American, in terms of tradition and history, that he does NOT seem to have the persona of a man who was socialized or born in the United States of America.


168 posted on 09/19/2009 11:01:39 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: null and void
"Should he be proven to have never been qualified in the first place, this would arguably nullify every law he's signed and every appointment he's made."

You might argue it, but you'd lose - decisively. From Ryder v. United States...

"The de facto officer doctrine confers validity upon acts performed by a person acting under the color of official title even though it is later discovered that the legality of that person’s appointment or election to office is deficient"

Other decisions reaffirming or citing this principle include, but are not limited to Norton v. Shelby County (where it was initially established)The People of the State of Colorado v. Adolph Quinten Sherrod.

This is not a complicated question of law. Precedent is well-established and is reinforced under the principle of stare decisis.

169 posted on 09/19/2009 11:05:37 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: Non-Sequitur
If Obama was born in Hawaii then yes, he's a natural born citizen and Constitutionally eligible to be president.

Zat so?

Show me the legal definition of NBC that says that.

The one the Founding Fathers used was from Blackstone and Vattel.

They both say that NBC requires both citizenship by location of birth AND both parents (or by the most liberal interpretations, at least the father!) being citizens of the country of birth.

Any other circumstances allow divided loyalties or allegiance.

170 posted on 09/19/2009 11:07:13 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 241 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Oh, and the 14th amendment? Yes, as the courts have come to interpret it, anchor babies are citizens.

So are a lot of other people who are not constitutionally qualified to hold the office of president.

171 posted on 09/19/2009 11:09:27 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 241 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: GoldStandard; LucyT

WOW.

SCREWY STUFF GOING ON.

LORD, GOD, BE WITH AND PROTECT ORLY AND BLESS HER EFFORTS.


172 posted on 09/19/2009 11:12:34 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: null and void; Non-Sequitur
"They both say that NBC requires both citizenship by location of birth AND both parents (or by the most liberal interpretations, at least the father!) being citizens of the country of birth."

And how moved was the Supreme Court by this argument? They found it so compelling that they denied certiorari (I believe three times) without comment from a single justice. Yep, that's one compelling argument.

173 posted on 09/19/2009 11:12:49 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: OldDeckHand

Might. I would never venture to tell a court what it is going to decide.


174 posted on 09/19/2009 11:15:11 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 241 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Quix
"SCREWY STUFF GOING ON."

Screwy stuff and Orley Tiatz? Color me unsurprised.

175 posted on 09/19/2009 11:22:26 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: null and void
"Might. I would never venture to tell a court what it is going to decide."

Ryder was a unanimous decision in a Rehnquist court. Like I said, it's not a complicated matter of law. In American jurisprudence, it's a close to a "sure thing" as one is going to get.

176 posted on 09/19/2009 11:26:41 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: BP2

Larry Sinclair is convinced the Rhodes letter has been fraudulently sent. He claims store video from OfficeMax in Columbus, Georgia should be used to verify who sent the fax. He has sent a letter to WRBL requesting that they place a disclaimer on their story until all the facts are known.

http://www2.wrbl.com/rbl/news/local/article/10000_sanction_proposed_against_birther_lawyer/93364/


177 posted on 09/19/2009 11:29:33 AM PDT by Faith
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To: null and void

Thanks for saying that, it bears repeating.


178 posted on 09/19/2009 11:30:25 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: moonpie57; null and void

Thank you for posting this. Many people are aware of what’s going on but are silent—for now.


179 posted on 09/19/2009 11:32:14 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: Non-Sequitur
I'll accept that he was born where he and his COLB say he was.

What COLB??? Oh -- that must be another one of your "apparitions".

Am I confusing you? Poor baby. OK, I'll be more specific.

Okay -- here is where you change what you said earlier, I'll bet.

If Obama was born in Hawaii then yes, he's a natural born citizen and Constitutionally eligible to be president.

I was right. Another day of NS and another hedge and another obfuscation corrected by more wordsmithing. Hint: "is" means "is", and "appears" means "appears", unless one is a left wing Democrat.

The phantoms seems to be your legal cases against Obama.

"seems"??? Hmmmm. More apparitions??? I suppose that's the way they "appear" to you.

180 posted on 09/19/2009 11:32:47 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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