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India's First Stealth Fighter Scheduled to Fly in 4 Months
DailyTech ^ | Aug 31, 2009 | Jason Mick

Posted on 09/08/2009 11:11:22 PM PDT by Danae

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To: GBA

yup.

Its not like it hard to find images online and hire some Russian engineers about the details.


21 posted on 09/09/2009 8:18:10 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com ............. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: TomasUSMC
Wrong again. The Government in India does not train anybody either. The Government in India invests FAR FAR less on youth and tech areas. Its not the Government's job to train people in tech areas or any area for that matter.

More over you are dead wrong about defense industries going for cheaper option from abroad. The totally dont. Not for projects that need high level security clearances. The few that do have high level security clearance, have skills no other Americans have (Government training or not). And its a misconception that H1bs are cheap. The are not, if you consider the cost of sponsoring their work permit,hiring attorneys, bringing them over to US and the minimum wage cap.

22 posted on 09/10/2009 6:49:14 AM PDT by Rookie Cookie
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To: Rookie Cookie
Well I've worked at TSSI levels and seen plenty of foreigners. ...and they weren't any smarter than Americans but they did work for much less.

And to say H1Bs are not cheap, well what do you think the cost is in time and money, of educating someone from first grade to a Master's is?

H1Bs have been giving our best jobs to people of other countries and leaving our kids with lesser jobs for years.
In a country of THREE HUNDRED MILLION people, there is absolutely no excuse for claiming we can't obtain the talent here. It is a giant lie.

Train Americans not foreigners for the jobs of the future or the future's jobs will be foreign to US.

23 posted on 09/10/2009 9:43:52 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: TomasUSMC
“Well I've worked at TSSI levels and seen plenty of foreigners. ...and they weren't any smarter than Americans but they did work for much less.”

“Seeing foreigners” is different from seeing H1Bs. You cant tell just by seeing if someone is an H1B. They could be “foreign looking” or non-White in your perception of what is American and foreign looking, but to obtain high level security clearance they HAVE TO BE citizen or at least Green Card. In most cases even Green Card is not enough. To say H1bs work with high level security clearance is pure BS. End of story. Period.

So are you saying American companies are discriminating against Americans? Find out how many Master's degree India and China produces and compare with how many we produce and get back to me. Why does the government or American companies have to spend time and money training Americans? Its not like companies need to lower cost, make profits and stay in business right? They can sure be as wasteful the government, after all people are entitled to it. Go figure how much money Government spends to train people in India.

24 posted on 09/10/2009 11:25:18 AM PDT by Rookie Cookie
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>>Find out how many Master’s degree India and China produces and compare with how many we produce and get back to me

Scarier is the ratio of foreign born PhD’s in America’s Scientific programs. If you can enter one of the Indian Institutes of Technology, it is now wonder so many come here for even more advanced studies.

The patent ratio is a troubling indicator as well.

Up until now, most PhD’s stayed in the US, now I understand the trend is shifting.

Science and the very concept of Progress has not achieved the level of opprobrium in India and China that it has been successfully tarred with here.


25 posted on 09/10/2009 12:12:39 PM PDT by swarthyguy (MEAT, the new tobacco. Your right to eat meat ends where my planetary ecosystem begins.)
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