Arctic ice proves to be slippery stuff

telegraph.co.uk ^ | 05 Sep 2009 | Christopher Booker

[quantim]

What made me ponder the geograhy covered by $1 bills from Porkulus was that I just listened to Reagan's first SOTU speech in '81 again to see some parallels into today and it is shocking to say the least.

Not three minutes into it Reagan stated that the national debt was close to a staggering 1,000,000,000,000 dollars.  Then he went on to say if you had a stack $1000 bills in your hand only 4" high you'd be a millionaire.  To pay the national debt (in 1981) you would need a stack of $1000 bills 67 miles into space.

Maybe there should be some language in the global warming bill to make currency white on one side so we could take all these bills getting printed by the fed and simply lay them on the highways, our lawns etc. to reduce the global temperature.  /s.

[Old Professer]

About 3600 sq. mi.

[Old Professer]

The scientists refer to that as the aerosol effect; they haven’t decided whether is a negative or positive effect overall but it is not part of the models being used.

[Old Professer]

The Arctic ice average less than one meter; Greenland’s ice cap around 3,000m; and Antarctica’s closer to 4500m.

That’s a bunch of Slurpees.

[razorback-bert]

Save the Whales

Collect the whole set

[sig226]

I found some statistical data on the Greenland ice somewhere and was able to estimate the volume of a rectangular prism from it, then calculate the effect if it was spread out over 70% of the Earth’s surface. I was very surprised that the climate change idiots had the right numbers. I expected a lie from them. But a lie filled with partial truths is still a lie.

[Old Professer]

My point was the idea of that ice melting rapidly; if it has taken 30 years to have melted one meter of polar ice, then how many lifetimes will we have to endure to see them gone?

[Betis70]

>>The actual area able to be covered with 787 Billion one-dollar bills is about 2/3 the size of Connecticut. (8136 sq.km)

I’ll take all the bills outside Fairfield County. :D

[Eurotwit]

According to NASA, almost 50 percent of all warming in the arctic is due to clean air regulations :-P

NASA GISS suggests aerosols play a large role in Arctic warming

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/09/nasa-giss-suggests-aerosols-play-a-large-role-in-arctic-warming/

[Eurotwit]

NASA GISS suggests aerosols play a large role in Arctic warming

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/09/nasa-giss-suggests-aerosols-play-a-large-role-in-arctic-warming/

[Ole Okie]

Gosh, what does the World Wrestling Federation know about this stuff, anyway?

About the same as the World Wildlife Fund knows.

[sig226]

That’s a good point. 30 years = 1 meter. This is in a liquid environment that has more convection than ice packed in a glacier on land. The water in the Arctic Ocean is warmer than the ice layer, and therefore capable of transferring heat to the ice, and of carrying heat from the oceans in lower lattitudes. The glacial ice under Greenland and Antarctica can’t do that. It’s actually colder than the surface ice due to the lack of solar heating.

I have no idea how to formulate the equations, but it’s worth considering.