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Posted on 09/07/2009 2:36:02 PM PDT by Lorianne
Nah, Klaus Fluoride.
Seems Gorbachov released a bunch of Soviet records in the early 90’s. The London guy went through them and found the memo from the KGB guy about the approach to him by Sorenson about setting up a meeting with Kennedy and Andropov. The idea was to teach Andropov how to talk to the American media with the ultimate goal of convincing the American people that Reagan was a nasty guy what with insisting on not agreeing to a nuclear freeze.
Ted’s intention was to try to bring Reagan down. It was a betrayal of our country, pure and simple. The memo even mentioned that either Walter Cronkite or Baba Walters to do the interview.
What I don’t understand is the Ruskies didn’t take Sorenson up on the offer. Which they didn’t because Andropov never appeared on Meet the Press much less other members of the Russian army.
This was some grand scheme Kennedy had, likely with help from Kerry, to bring down Reagan with a little lying from the media.
It didn’t work because first of all...the Ruskies didn’t take the offer. I wonder why.
Later they got away with a betrayal over Vietnam which cost the lives of millions and know that as you read this Teddy’s burning in hell.
This is one amazing story....as I understand the Ruskies have now closed those files up again so the chance for Bloggers and all to get at them has been lost.
Wow thank you Kennedy's traitorous actions knew no bounds Amazing he got away with it.
Even more aggregious than Chappaquidick IMO, and this coming from someone who lives roughly 3 miles from where Mary Jo is buried.
LLS
Alas, the memo concluded with a discussion of Kennedy's own presidential prospects in 1984, and a note that Kennedy "underscored that he eagerly awaits a reply to his appeal."
What happened next? We will never know. None of the Kennedy admirers and court composers who serve as "journalists" bothered to ask, even with decades available to pose questions, beginning back in January 1992 when the highly reputable London Times broke the story.
In 2006, when my book was released, there was a virtual media blackout on coverage of the document, with the exception of conservative media: talk-radio, Rush Limbaugh, some websites, and mention on FoxNews by Brit Hume. Amazingly, I didn't even get calls from mainstream reporters seeking to shoot down the story. I had prepared in great detail to be grilled on national television, picturing the likes of Katie Couric needling me. I didn't need to worry.
And the New York Times wonders why people stopped buying newspapers... Stunning.
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NEVER FORGET
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It gets worse.
After Sen. TED KENNEDY pushed a post-Watergate Democrat Congress into cutting off all U.S. Funding for the then Free South Vietnamese people to fight for their own FREEDOM with during the Vietnam War,
...came a most horrid outcome for millions of poor S.E. Asian souls:
JOURNEY from the FALL (The infamous Fall of Saigon)
http://www.JourneyFromTheFall.com
http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts
This, even after a touring Sen. TED KENNEDY had already seen for himself in person exactly what the Fight for FREEDOM was really all about in a then FREE South Vietnam:
http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set1.htm
(See 5th Photo down-Sen. TED KENNEDY touring our Vietnam Central Highlands 1st CAV Headquarters at the start of the Vietnam War)
Accompanying Sen. TED KENNEDY in his 1965 Vietnam War tour, was a newly installed 1st term Congressman Rep. JOHN TUNNEY from California, who I also personally greeted during their tour.
The very same JOHN TUNNEY who later on was the KENNEDY Staffer Sen. TED KENNEDY sent to Moscow to start conspiring with the Communist Soviet Union to defeat President RONALD REAGAN’s 2nd Presidential Term Bid.
And thus to defeat President REAGAN’s, and the POPE’s, goal of winning the Cold War over the Communist Soviet Union’s Evil Empire.
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For,
the Enemy is now within
...and always has been.
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Signed:..”ALOHA RONNIE” Guyer
Veteran-”WE WERE SOLDIERS” Battle of IA DRANG-1965
http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm
http://www.Freerepublic.com/~aloharonnie/
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NEVER FORGET
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People please catch this lesson..... There is no intellectual honesty on the left. We conservatives act shocked when the leftist press will not report on something that makes them look bad. Stop trying to engage them, they do not play honest and their intention is to kill you not just beat you politically.
Please stop having the presupposition that if you show them the truth the will turn their ways. THEY WILL NOT! GET OVER IT. Just take them out politically like they are the disease they are. They are defiled and corrupt. They glory in your naivete and laugh at you during their parties how you will keep holding the football over and over again for Lucy. Snap out of it and clean house.
I grew up in the Soviet Union and can venture a guess.
The Soviet thinking was thoroughlly through the prism of the class structures. Since both Kennedy and Reagan were upper class, -- in fact, Kennedy more so than Reagan, -- the distinctions between them that we see as between the Democrats and the Republicans, the KGB did not consider important. The American system was viewed as rule of the very rich, the "capitalists", through the proxies of two political parties and illusion of democratic change.
They did not consider the American Left (other than the Communist Party USA and maybe another fringe group or two) as allies, or even trustworthy collaborators. They probably calculated that Kennedy's offer would come with a price of political openness inside the Soviet Union: release of political prisoners, freedom to emigrate, greater flow of information, that kind of thing.
Do not forget that the Soviet Rrgime depended on the continued Cold War in order to justify political repression at home and interventions abroad. They, perhaps, feared real confrontation or even being outspent on defense, -- hence, their interest in so-called detente, but they did not want the military standoff to go completely away.
In short, it is possible that they did not prefer Ted Kennedy to Reagan at that stage. To them, the ideal American president would be someone in the middle, neither a dove or a real hawk.
The Massachusetts sandwich maker has gone to meet his maker....I'm sure he now knows first-hand what burnt toast feels like.
“I grew up in the Soviet Union and can venture a guess.
The Soviet thinking was thoroughlly through the prism of the class structures. Since both Kennedy and Reagan were upper class, — in fact, Kennedy more so than Reagan, — the distinctions between them that we see as between the Democrats and the Republicans, the KGB did not consider important. The American system was viewed as rule of the very rich, the “capitalists”, through the proxies of two political parties and illusion of democratic change.
They did not consider the American Left (other than the Communist Party USA and maybe another fringe group or two) as allies, or even trustworthy collaborators. They probably calculated that Kennedy’s offer would come with a price of political openness inside the Soviet Union: release of political prisoners, freedom to emigrate, greater flow of information, that kind of thing.
Do not forget that the Soviet Rrgime depended on the continued Cold War in order to justify political repression at home and interventions abroad. They, perhaps, feared real confrontation or even being outspent on defense, — hence, their interest in so-called detente, but they did not want the military standoff to go completely away.
In short, it is possible that they did not prefer Ted Kennedy to Reagan at that stage. To them, the ideal American president would be someone in the middle, neither a dove or a real hawk.”
Thank you for that insight!
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