Posted on 08/28/2009 11:34:18 PM PDT by fabrizio
In his diocese, Comrade Obama did not get a majority of the vote and his homilies had no secondary part in that turnout. DO FREEP THIS POLL!
Bishop Martino appears to be a real Catholic as opposed to the Notre Dame liberal “American” Catholic church frauds.
I voted. Badly needs Freeping.
ping
Luzerne, Lackawanna and Monroe counties all went for Obama heavily and these are the population centers of the Diocese.
Luzerne has trended Democrat in the last 20 years. Lackawanna has always been a Democrat stronghold while Monroe has been infiltrated by transplants from New Jersey bringing their liberalism with them.
His tenure was marked by clashes with Catholic politicians, local Catholic universities, the Catholic teachers union, his fellow American bishops, and parishioners and parents tied to churches and schools he closed. At the same time, he was embraced by the local and national anti-abortion movement as an unflinching leader bearing a message about the importance of human life.
ping
I’m not a Catholic, but living in Wilkes Barre I can tell you the man is not liked at all in the area.
I will miss his leadership 29 % (425)
I’m happy to see him go 61 % (889)
I don’t care 10 % (139)
Total number of votes: 1453
I was speaking of the Catholic vote (which in PA was an anomaly thoughout the state though, with 53% gone to McCain - but the Bishops of PA followed Martino’s lead last fall) and 8 out of the 12 counties in the diocese went to MCain, notably Wayne county where Martino marched into a pro-Obama conference of ‘Catholic’ liberals and made headlines for days.
Of course he didn’t campaign for McCain, only pointed out the impossibility of voting for someone so committed to the killing of unborn babies and even abortion survivors.
29 is up 3% since I posted the freep-this-poll message 6 hours ago. Not bad. Also, that’s a liberal paper’s website, so liberals of the area are more likely to see the poll and vote.
Low morale among those who would like to support positions and politicians that are antithetical to Catholicism, and yet still call themselves Catholic! Low morale for those who know they are in a state of grave sin, and are uncomfortable being reminded of that fact! Hypocrisy and sin hate the light of Truth, and Martine was pointing a giant spot-light on the hypocrites in his diocese. Predictably, they scatter to darkness like cockroaches, to pule and whine from the shadows.
God be with Bishop Martino in the next phase of his life. He has been a beacon of light. Mother Church needs more men like him.
Well CINOs are not likely to feel warmly towards him.
I’m not talking cons or libs, just people in general have a very negative opinion of the Diocese under Martino’s leadership. I personally don’t care since I have no dog in that fight but he’s about as popular as Mark Ciaverella here.
well i would be interested in what a resident traditional Catholic thinks of him. as a traditional catholic living in NoVA i think he has taken courageous stands on important issues. as to whether he’s a nice GUY or not, i have no idea, but iIMO bishops are there to guide the flock and not necessarily hold your hand and be your best friend.
I don’t think it’s an issue of whether he’s “a nice guy,” it’s more about competency and leadership.
Well, like you said, you’re not Catholic. I am curious what a traditional Catholic in the diocese thinks in that regard. People look at those things in different ways, depending on their political/religious orientation. Priests, bishops who are more strict and traditional are by and large not liked by the “happy slappy” Catholics in their flock. Those criticisms are generally not voiced as, oh he’s too strict or too traditional, they look for other ways to voice their dislike.
Freepers like to spoil liberal’s days.
and after another 2 hours we got two more % points with 20 votes, while they lost one % point with 15 more votes.
I will miss his leadership 31 % (465)
I'm happy to see him go 60 % (904)
I don't care 9 % (140)
Total number of votes: 1509
Keep up the freeping!
bttt
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