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HPV Vaccine - What Parents Need to Know
Townhall.com ^ | August 25, 2009 | Janice Shaw Crouse

Posted on 08/26/2009 5:11:05 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 08/26/2009 5:11:05 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: GoDuke

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2 posted on 08/26/2009 5:21:34 AM PDT by GoDuke
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To: Kaslin
bttt....

My granddaughter watches the 'kiddie channels'...on TV....entertainment for toddlers...and up to 4,5 yr olds...

I've noticed a commercial for this very vaccine on this channel geared to little kids.

Whenever she visits, I change the channel or mute the sound.

She has no idea what they're talking about, but I find it repulsive to advertise this to little kids.
It's a scary enough world without exploiting little kids watching The Backyardians or Spongebob Squarepants.

3 posted on 08/26/2009 5:27:37 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Kaslin

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4 posted on 08/26/2009 5:32:41 AM PDT by BruCru (I think, therefore I am conservative!)
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To: Kaslin

The marketing is another example of the sexualization of our youth and reinforces the “no consequences” mentality.


5 posted on 08/26/2009 5:40:41 AM PDT by G Larry ( Obamacare=Dying in Line!)
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To: G Larry
I disagree. Rape is a very sad statistic (not that they are all reported)--in our country as is the chastity rates among teenaged boys and men. When they can convince me that the vaccine is safe, I will consider it for my daughters.

There are plenty of legitimate criticisms out there for this vaccine but "no consequences" sex isn't one of them.

6 posted on 08/26/2009 6:08:21 AM PDT by TNdandelion (I'd rather have FedEx run my healthcare than USPS.)
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To: Kaslin

Most moms want to do everything they should for their kids health, vaccines are routine. My daughters don’t want the vaccine because of what they think it says about their virtue and plans for continued virtue. I am concerned about the safety of the vaccine and I don’t think it is a great benefit considering the cost. I know the arguments but I have watched doctors push other preventive treatments like hormone therapy. I resisted that push for several reasons and my instincts were somewhat confirmed. Same here.


7 posted on 08/26/2009 6:38:44 AM PDT by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: Kaslin; Gabz
Merck acknowledges that the drug is effective for only five years, so giving the drug to 11 to 12 year olds hardly seems warranted.

Here's a fact I hadn't seen before.

So they're wanting to give a vaccine to 9-year-olds, even though its effectiveness will expire when she's 14. Presumably they expect the young girls to be exposed to HPV at 11 or 12?

This is not a disease issue - it's a child-abuse issue!

8 posted on 08/26/2009 6:40:40 AM PDT by Tax-chick (If you've ever discovered your cow eating a guest in the barn, you'll understand.)
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To: G Larry; TNdandelion; Kaslin; Guenevere; GoDuke; BruCru

“The marketing is another example of the sexualization of our youth and reinforces the “no consequences” mentality.”

I don’t really see it the same way as you. A girl who has refrained from premarital sex is still at risk for HPV exposure when she gets married, unless she marries a guy who’s never had sex before. Even if the prospective husband claims that he’s never had sex, he could be lying, so the girl, through no fault of her own, could be exposed to the virus. A sexually innocent girl could also be exposed through rape. The most important issue for me is whether the vaccine is safe or not. My doctor says that any vaccine, including Gardisil, has risks, but that Gardisil is probably safer than most other vaccines (such as DTP for instance). I’m not sure he’s right about Gardisil being safer than most other vaccines, and this is what I want to find out before I’m comfortable with the idea of my teenage daughter getting this vaccine.


9 posted on 08/26/2009 6:44:38 AM PDT by Texan Tory
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To: Kaslin
Cost / Benefit analysis. Take the miniscule risk of Bad Things happening so your daughter can be protected from cancer?

This should be a NO BRAINER, parents!

Out of the millions of girls who have received the vaccine, a small percentage of those had ANY problems whatsoever, and only 7% of those who HAD problems died as a result.

Put in perspective, you put your child at far GREATER risk if you EVER let her ride in the car with you on America's highways. That's a risk you're willing to take with her life every single day, just for convenience. Why not accept a SMALLER risk to save her from CANCER???

Vaccinate your daughters.

10 posted on 08/26/2009 6:48:32 AM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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To: Tax-chick

I hadn’t seen that so specifically spelled out, although I have read that Merch “wasn’t sure” how long it was effective.

My doctor does not recommend it, most especially in prementrual girls like my 11 year old, even though Virginia “mandates” it for girls entering 6th grade. The gal who is head of the school nurses for our district and happens to be a friend from church. She agrees with me, and the Doc, and says the “mandate” is more a joke than anything. The way I opt out of it is to just not get it. LOL!!!


11 posted on 08/26/2009 6:55:27 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: TChris
Vaccinate your daughters.

This is my opinion as well, but I wouldn't support making it mandatory. If I had a daughter, I would encourage her to get the vaccine.
12 posted on 08/26/2009 7:00:18 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: TChris

39 deaths from the vaccine. Less than 4000 total deaths a year from Cervical Cancer. The vaccine doesn’t prevent all cervical cancer, and the vaccine is only good for 5 years (I didn’t know that).

Other deaths coinciding with the vaccine have been excluded because the information about them was incomplete.

The cervical cancer prevented by the vaccine can also be prevented by safe sex or abstinence. Neither of those have killed anybody.

So it is not as “no-brainer” as you think. The relative risks are within a few orders of magnitude, and the relative risks among some subclasses are about even, so if you are in those subclasses you might well just ignore the vaccine.

On the other hand, the risks of the vaccine, while much greater than “promised”, are not so far showing up as bad as feared. A few more years and we’ll know more about long-term effects. But for now, there is still the risk of the unknown which isn’t factored into the 39 deaths number.

As to your example of riding in a car, that is also more of a risk than of getting cervical cancer in this country.


13 posted on 08/26/2009 7:16:32 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: TChris
My daughter is 21 and had the series at around age 18.

She is devoutly Catholic and completely chaste, but that doesn't always make a difference. Rape happens, husbands cheating happens (or husbands carrying a time bomb that they don't even know about from before the marriage). A friend of a friend got a very nasty (and incurable) STD from a husband that she didn't know was into the Midtown bathhouse scene (none of us knew - he hid it VERY well).

Daughter had a heart-to-heart with her pediatrician, who is a fine young man and a very good doctor. He is the protege of our former pediatrician, now deceased, who was the best and wisest doctor I knew. He recommended that she get the vaccine. Unfortunately all vaccines have risks - but some of us remember the days before the polio vaccine when the swimming pools closed and people kept their kids home from school. A boy in my elementary school class was one of the last to be crippled by polio -- his mama didn't get him vaccinated, for whatever reason, and he wore braces for the rest of his life (he was killed in a car wreck when we were in high school).

14 posted on 08/26/2009 7:20:01 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Safe sex/ abstinence isn't always an option. See my previous post.

Our pediatrician laid out all the pros and cons, and concluded that the benefits outweighed the risks. . . . and you know, that's what he went through med school and residency for, and that's why we go to him . . . .

15 posted on 08/26/2009 7:22:36 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: TChris

In no way does this vaccine PREVENT your daughters from getting cancer. please don’t presume to speak down to those of us who are educated, intelligent and well-informed about this particular vaccine and choose NOT to have our daughters vaccinated. It is a choice for each parent to make after informing themselves accordingly.


16 posted on 08/26/2009 7:24:51 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: G Larry
The marketing is another example of the sexualization of our youth and reinforces the “no consequences” mentality.

Have you even seen the commercials for the vaccination? Your comment suggests that you have not. Mentioning a cervix is not sexual.

Sex is not mentioned at all, nothing suggestive, unless you think the sight of a mother wanting to protect her daughter from cervical cancer is somehow suggestive of sex to you.

Should not be mandatory, but IMO, thinking this vaccination is about no consequences sex is pretty shortsighted.

Full disclosure: Both of my daughters received the vaccination.

17 posted on 08/26/2009 7:46:36 AM PDT by dmz
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In fact, cervical cancer is relatively uncommon in the United States.
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I came of age at the dawn of the sexual revolution, so many of my friends fell for it, hook, line and sinker. As time marched on I noticed that many of the most promiscuious girls were having problems with cancerous cells and very many that I knew well and just knew of had to have early hysterectomies. Many were only able to have one child and some wern’t able to have any. I put 2 and 2 together and came up with the promiscuity somehow being at fault. I had already noticed how that promiscuity harmed their personalities, it just isn’t good for you.

It wasn’t until about 8 yrs ago that I heard about HPV and how it often went undiagnosed and the results. It was something I had often wondered about and I finally had an answer.

My granddaughter is almost 16, she and her mother decided that she wasn’t going to get the shot and I was very glad. Just from my lifetime of observation, she doesn’t have the personality to be promiscuous, but she has been educated so that she does know the serious consequences to her own psyche and her body.


18 posted on 08/26/2009 8:00:23 AM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: xsmommy
In no way does this vaccine PREVENT your daughters from getting cancer.

Yeah, actually it does. Sorry that offends your sensibilities.

19 posted on 08/26/2009 8:31:16 AM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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