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Can Congress force me to buy health insurance? - Ed Morrissey

Posted on 08/22/2009 8:11:00 AM PDT by wingsof liberty

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So in a worst case scenario, it could be the Supreme Court which saves us from this "Obamination"
1 posted on 08/22/2009 8:11:00 AM PDT by wingsof liberty
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To: wingsof liberty

Sorry about the lack of paragraphs. Didnt catch that


2 posted on 08/22/2009 8:11:47 AM PDT by wingsof liberty
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. WILL THE PLAN PUNISH AMERICANS WHO TRY TO OPT OUT?

What the bill says, pages 167-168, section 401, TAX ON INDIVIDUALS WITHOUT ACCEPTABLE HEALTH CARE COVERAGE:

‘‘(a) TAX IMPOSED.—In the case of any individual who does not meet the requirements of subsection (d) at any time during the taxable year, there is hereby imposed a tax equal to 2.5 percent of the excess of—
(1) the taxpayer’s modified adjusted gross income for the taxable year, over
(2) the amount of gross income specified in section 6012(a)(1) with respect to the taxpayer. . . .”

EVALUATION OF THE PASSAGE:

1. This section amends the Internal Revenue Code.
2. Anyone caught without acceptable coverage and not in the government plan will pay a special tax.
3. The IRS will be a major enforcement mechanism for the plan.


3 posted on 08/22/2009 8:12:38 AM PDT by kabar
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To: wingsof liberty

From what I understand, you’ll be “allowed” to keep your current insurance unless your policy changes in any way. Of course, everyone’s policy changes every 6 months or whatever their term is. At that point, you’ll be basically conscripted to the government plan.


4 posted on 08/22/2009 8:12:42 AM PDT by RAO1125 (Neoconservatism:Failed. Socialism:Failing (again). Next up: Libertarianism)
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To: wingsof liberty; justiceseeker93; Nachum; freekitty; 2ndDivisionVet; Clintonfatigued

Can we file a class action suit on behalf of the American people against the Administration and Congress? Violation of our rights!


5 posted on 08/22/2009 8:13:25 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: wingsof liberty
...riding roughshod over the Constitution means nothing to a socialist
6 posted on 08/22/2009 8:14:07 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: wingsof liberty

Liberty? Living or dying at the whim of the Supreme Court?

Why does that worry me?


7 posted on 08/22/2009 8:14:25 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: wingsof liberty

If you don’t have health insurance, will they throw you in jail? And then, won’t they give you free health care?


8 posted on 08/22/2009 8:14:32 AM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (This Little Piggie Gets Wee Wee'd Up All The Way Home)
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RE :”So in a worst case scenario, it could be the Supreme Court which saves us from this “Obamination”

Dont see it happening.

In the case of forcing us to have health insurance, wouldnt make any sense to rule that unconstitutional anyways since the federal government forces hospitals to provide services without payment and gets away with that. SCOTUS would have to stop both.


10 posted on 08/22/2009 8:15:55 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Socialist Conservatives: "'Big government is free because tax cuts pay for it'")
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The IRS is being given more and more power, not less. They are including the idea of telling them how many guns you have in your home. Communism at its best. These people don’t realize why the USSR failed and are bringing their method of governing here. Because you disagree with your politicians.......they are going to tax you? Unbelievable!


11 posted on 08/22/2009 8:17:37 AM PDT by RC2
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"In the case of any individual who does not meet the requirements of subsection (d) at any time during the taxable year, there is hereby imposed a tax equal to 2.5 percent of the excess of— (1) the taxpayer’s modified adjusted gross income for the taxable year, over (2) the amount of gross income specified in section 6012(a)(1) with respect to the taxpayer. . . .”"

And there is the absolute beginning of RWII! That's my line in the sand...when the fedgov requires me to buy health insurance.

12 posted on 08/22/2009 8:18:35 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (Progressives are Regressive; Think Socialism Failures!)
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You must not have received the memo from the home office.

Under Obama we now use the techniques of Sharia Law in America.

13 posted on 08/22/2009 8:18:47 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (GIVE ME YOUR MONEY BITCH! - President Obama)
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To: wingsof liberty

Congress can force any American to buy insurance from a single payer, they can force any American basically to do anything, like jump through a flaming hoop if they like. The key is if a super majority that we collectively elect lean towards Marxism, they can (and are in-progress) paper-cutting the USA to shreds. The constitution will mean nothing with a dem super majority for enough years to phase out the court conservative constitutionalists and bring in USA-shredding louts. They are always, ALWAYS, on the lookout for ways to nick, tick and prick the US Constitution. I think back to all the hue-n-cry from the Hillary!’s a few years ago to abolish the Electoral College. Perhaps they will make another putsch to try and change how the president is elected prior to 2012.


14 posted on 08/22/2009 8:20:02 AM PDT by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
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"Sure, and they will take automatic deductions from your bank to pay for it."

I'v been looking for some time to move my assets off shore. This would be the final straw.

15 posted on 08/22/2009 8:21:11 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (Progressives are Regressive; Think Socialism Failures!)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

How about with malicious attempt to defraud the citizens of the United States.


16 posted on 08/22/2009 8:22:06 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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17 posted on 08/22/2009 8:23:36 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: wingsof liberty

I am a health insurance agent.
I know lots of people who decline or refuse to purchase health insurance.
That is their right, to do so.

We need to let such people know that bankruptcy court, is the place to go, if they end up wishing they had made a different decision.

Risk is part of life.

How we handle risk should be up to us.

Those who insist on taking such financial risks should NOT be bailed out, by the rest of us!


18 posted on 08/22/2009 8:25:07 AM PDT by Kansas58
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Yes the Congress can and will it seems. And the liberal run Supreme Court will probably allow it. This corruption is national now.
The chickens are coming home to roost. The people voted for and are getting communism, the change they want.
19 posted on 08/22/2009 8:25:47 AM PDT by kindred (Facts are a stubborn thing, but people are even more stubborn and will deny facts.)
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