Posted on 08/21/2009 6:04:13 PM PDT by RobinMasters
“Christian candidate”
“What if if Mark Levin or Dennis Prager ran? Would you vote for either one of them? “
Of course, they havent run before and likely wont ... but Eric Cantor of Virginia was touted as a VP candidate in 2008 and is a possible contender.
So what about him? Who would say ‘no’ to him because he’s not a Christian?
As a side note, you can't be a semi billionaire either you are or you're not. If you support Romney fine, but to try and convince me that he is not a liberal when he has decades of political opinions that are liberal, and his actions are liberal is ludicrous, I am not blind or stupid or simple.
“The Liberal media crucified Palin and ruined her for 2012.”
“Your thinking has you trapped in a box where the liberal media would control every move Republicans make.”
It’s one thing to discount the liberal MSM and another to discount reality. Palin is loved by the GOP base but not by independents and others. You cant wish that away.
Here’s the actual polls results, and perhaps the shocking thing at least to me is that Palin is less electable than Newt Gingrich as of right now ... I frankly didnt expect that....
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_National_820.pdf
“In this month’s iteration of the survey Huckabee polls the closest to Obama of any match
up so far, trailing the President just 47-44. A month ago the spread was 48-42.
Newt Gingrich comes the next closest, trailing 49-41, followed by Mitt Romney at 47-40
and Sarah Palin at 52-38.”
“First There is a big difference between Gov Palin and Romney.
72/16 vs 52/18.”
I said their negatives are not that much different, thanks for agreeing.
“Second to say that Romney is not as bad as the left wing extremists so somehow that’s ok.”
There ya go, that false thingee. I never said it was ‘ok’. Dont infer falsely. this is about a label. I simply want to speak reality not over-the-top expressions that mangle definitions. Name-calling doesnt make reality fit your perceptions.
Maybe that’s why birthers - who are engaged is a big fantasy-land attempt to sell a conspiracy theory - are most anti-Romney. They fall for cr*p and are using unfounded and untrue claims to advance the agenda (kick BHO out of WH). “Romney is a liberal” and “Obama is a Kenyan” are cut from the same cloth.
“Is like saying well you just broke your arm it could have been you leg.”
If I bring my broken arm to the doctor and he says I need brain surgery, I get a new doctor. It is what it is. Call Romney a RINO if you must, but over-using ‘liberal’ just robs it of meaning.
“As a side note, you can’t be a semi billionaire either you are or you’re not.”
LOL. He has $500 million net worth or so, that’s what I meant by that.
“If you support Romney fine,”
I dont. He’s not the true conservative I would like running for office. What I support is people using words properly. I was offended when Clinton mangled words to distort reality, and I am offended when freepers do it.
” but to try and convince me that he is not a liberal “
... sigh, its like talking to a coffee table. got it.
Amazing. People who want to hear the truth like Romney least.
You are ALWAYS advocating that Republians operate from a place of fear. That is the strategy of LOSERS.
Polls are real to a point, but they are highly prone to manipulation in their internals, and highly manipulative when they are presented with an agenda. I don't put much stock in polls, to tell you the truth -- that Obama's poll numbers are falling doesn't much validate the legitimacy of polls, because he was never that popular in the first place (it's why Democrats had to cheat to win) and now pollsters with all their agendas find it difficult to even fake the polls.
Obama is dropping in popularity because it was inevitable, a guaranteed result, because the people didn't really elect him. Same thing with Franken -- of COURSE Franken is going to be very unpopular very quickly -- he's a fraud, just like Obama. They can fake the votes and they can fake the polls, but they can't fake reality, and the reality is most people didn't want them.
The reality is that Romney lost big in the primaries despite the length of time he campaigned and the zillions of dollars he spent. The reality is that you, WOSG, no matter how much you protest to the contrary, behave consistently on FR as a Romney supporter, if I remember correctly, and I've been participating in Romney threads for years now.
Palin draws crowds in the multiple thousands. You are delusional if you think that popularity won't translate to independents and regular Americans.
We want neither a moderate like Romney nor a phony like Huckabee who would sell out everything for access to the oval office.
We want Palin, because she can be trusted with power.
I’m sorry. I meant Judeo-Christian values. I would like Eric Cantor to win down the line, but I think he is too unknown to win in 2012. Huckabee is our best bet if we want to win in 2012. He is only down against Obama by 3 points and he can win it for us. I would love a Huckabee/Cantor ticket in 2012. Palin would be great but with the lies about her family being sprouted from MSNBC/CNN/Daily Kos, we can not afford to see her being crucified to let Obama have a second term.
To be fair the media will treat our 2012 nominee (the same manner as it treated Palin). The media will do anything to protect its Messiah.
With Romney, the media will highlight his flip-flops, RomneyCare woes, and Mormons.
With Newt, the media will bring up his personal life and remind people about the budget battles with Clinton during the 1990s.
With Haley Barbour, the media will lampoon him as being a chunky, tobacco lobbyst from Dixie.
As for the Huckabee, the media will not refer to him as Governor. The pundits will constantly refer to Huckabee as Reverend. Implying that Huckabee is an American Mullah who wants to use the govt to force people into being Christians.
Botton line: whoever our 2012 nominee must be ready to deal with the media slim machine. I hope the people that I mentioned are up to the task. We’ll find out in the primaries.
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Both are unacceptable.
No. We do not give an inch to the evil of the leftist media. We do not let them dictate, through their godless tactics, who we support for the presidency.
Think about this, with time. I know you like Huckabee. But from this moment, as the minutes turn into hours and the hours into days, I would like you to focus on Huckabee’s personality.
See if you can detect a hint of pretentiousness beneath Huckabee’s talent for language and his ability to sound like a conservative.
Palin is the only one who has defeated the media storm against her.
Look at what happened in the Letterman incident. If the media truly had ultimate control over the fate of Palin’s public image, she wouldn’t have been able to slam Letterman like she did.
...Romney, Newt and Huckabee, you say?? Let’s get real. Sarah Palin is a diamond to be plucked from the midst of worthless chunks of coal.
The Economist weekly poll this week had Palin at 78% among Republicans. Romney wasn't polled.
What did the Economist poll say about Palin’s overall approval? Is it similiar to PPP (+40 / -49) or worse?
I’m sorry. I would like Palin to win, but she is simply unelectable. In a hypothetical matchup, she loses to Obama 52 to 38. The liberal media attacked her with the Bristol Palin pregnancy story, the Katie Couric interview, the attacks on Trig Palin or any number of the hit jobs by MSNBC and CNN has ruined her image among independents and democrats. I would rather see Huckabee who can win the election (47 to 44 margin for Obama) and be able to put in a strong Conservative agenda then Palin losing and Obasma putting in his abortion, pro-homosexuality, Marxist agenda. I think those who are pushing us away from viable candidates are closet Democrats who want Obama to win to push their agenda.
Palin favorables:
Dems -- 11%
Republicans -- 78%
Independents -- 44%
Overall -- 39%
Party split -- 45% D, 37% R, 18% Ind.
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Are you saying that those who support Palin are "closet Democrats who want Obama to win", newbie?
One other note: Obama only polled 47% among Indies, so Palin was within 3 among Indies.
So the media has this overpowering influence over Sarah Palin?
A couple months ago it was Palin alone against David Letterman and the entire media including Fox.
Palin won.
A huge victory like this, and you still want to quit? You are either extremely weak or you have a hidden agenda.
If it’s weakness, just get out of the way please. But if you’re hiding something, what value could that something hold if it must remain forever hidden?
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