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Is Benedict in Favor of World Government?
First Things ^ | August 20, 2009 | Douglas A. Sylva

Posted on 08/20/2009 12:30:40 PM PDT by IbJensen

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To: topcat54

Topcat’s holy sticks; just add water and the Messiah appears!


681 posted on 08/26/2009 2:07:49 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I attended a Bible College in the 70's. I enjoyed the course entitled "Revelations". The instructor was Stacy Cline, an ardent post-millennialist. We were required to write a paper for our grade.

My treatise, "A Premillennialist Response to the Heresy of Post-Millennialism" got me an "A". Not everyone agrees on the end-times (duh).

It is more important to worry about other things!

Romans 13: 11 And do this, understanding the present time. The hour has come for you to wake up from your slumber, because our salvation is nearer now than when we first believed. 12 The night is nearly over; the day is almost here. So let us put aside the deeds of darkness and put on the armor of light. 13 Let us behave decently, as in the daytime, not in orgies and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and debauchery, not in dissension and jealousy. 14 Rather, clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ, and do not think about how to gratify the desires of the sinful nature. -love, Paul

682 posted on 08/26/2009 2:09:31 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. -Arthur C Clarke)
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To: WVKayaker
Lol. Congratulations on your "A!"

Obviously Cline was living as a postmil, ever looking for the good and finding it. 8~)

683 posted on 08/26/2009 2:40:05 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: TradicalRC

One doesn’t keep sinning, my FRiend. When you sin, you confess your sins to God through His Son, Jesus Christ, and you are forgiven when you repent and confess. Don’t Catholics get it? Cheez guys. You don’t need to save them all up for confession and absolution. God made a way for us to do that through His Son.


684 posted on 08/26/2009 5:46:53 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Buggman

How sonderful for you, and them! Congratulations!


685 posted on 08/26/2009 5:55:18 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: 1000 silverlings

I’m listening, dear silverlings.


686 posted on 08/26/2009 6:00:28 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: editor-surveyor

I think there are many who are calling themselves Christians; they go to church, they do good works, but in reality many do not have a personal relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ. That’s where the rubber hits the road. Are you committed to Christ, to living HIS way, obedient to His Word?


687 posted on 08/26/2009 6:09:12 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: editor-surveyor

He only has power over us if we give it to him.


688 posted on 08/26/2009 6:10:15 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Marysecretary
"That’s where the rubber hits the road. Are you committed to Christ, to living HIS way, obedient to His Word?"

Exactly.

Too many believe that a church can save them. A hard day is coming for them.

689 posted on 08/26/2009 6:40:10 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: editor-surveyor

Just by reading the last couples posts on this thread gives me the idea that there is way too much judging going on here about how to praise the Lord. Maybe we should leave the judging to Him.


690 posted on 08/26/2009 6:46:45 PM PDT by awin
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To: editor-surveyor

Yes, and infant baptism. They WILL be in for a big surprise.


691 posted on 08/26/2009 7:22:35 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: awin

Do you believe that God’s word misleads us?

Paul gave specific instructions to the Corinthians to discern the apostasy of members of their congregation, and to excommunicate them if they didn’t adhear to the word.

We are commanded to judge. (after setting our own lives in order)


692 posted on 08/26/2009 8:47:17 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Marysecretary
One doesn’t keep sinning, my FRiend. When you sin, you confess your sins to God through His Son, Jesus Christ, and you are forgiven when you repent and confess. Don’t Catholics get it?

Yeah, WE get it. Apostolic succession, baby.

21 Again Jesus said, "Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you." 22 And with that he breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven."
-John 20: 21-23

693 posted on 08/27/2009 6:27:22 AM PDT by TradicalRC (Conservatism is primarily a Christian movement.)
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To: IbJensen
Pursuit of this truth reveals that each human being possesses absolute worth; therefore, authentic human development is predicated on a radical defense of life.

Oh No! A "Radical Defense of Life"! How could he defy those who apparently support Obama and his death-camp pro-baby-slaughter agenda. The Pope is eeeeeevil.

We will now return you to your regularly scheduled sarcasm.

694 posted on 08/27/2009 6:33:35 AM PDT by TradicalRC (Conservatism is primarily a Christian movement.)
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To: TradicalRC

No, I don’t think you really do.


695 posted on 08/27/2009 6:51:54 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Marysecretary

Don’t you at the very least find it ironic that I refute you with scripture while you merely assert your own beliefs?


696 posted on 08/27/2009 6:57:56 AM PDT by TradicalRC (Conservatism is primarily a Christian movement.)
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To: Buggman; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; xzins; Dr. Eckleburg
Amen. It's a pity that so many inadverantly call the Holy One a lawyer and try to read "all Israel shall be saved" as "1% of Israel shall be saved."

Just curious, but does "all Israel" now include you since going under the knife? How about a bunch of Ethiopian converts from the 19th century?

Are you able to provide a definition of "all Israel" that includes 2000 years of ethnic and cultural uncertainty, not to mention is biblically consistent?

How is the biblical phrase "all Israel" related to modern, self-identified Jews?

Is "all Israel" limited to a moment in time?

John Calvin commented on this text:

26. And so all Israel, etc. Many understand this of the Jewish people, as though Paul had said, that religion would again be restored among them as before: but I extend the word Israel to all the people of God, according to this meaning, — “When the Gentiles shall come in, the Jews also shall return from their defection to the obedience of faith; and thus shall be completed the salvation of the whole Israel of God, which must be gathered from both; and yet in such a way that the Jews shall obtain the first place, being as it were the first-born in God’s family.” This interpretation seems to me the most suitable, because Paul intended here to set forth the completion of the kingdom of Christ, which is by no means to be confined to the Jews, but is to include the whole world. The same manner of speaking we find in Galatians 6:16 (“And as many as shall walk by this rule, peace be upon them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.”). The Israel of God is what he calls the Church, gathered alike from Jews and Gentiles; and he sets the people, thus collected from their dispersion, in opposition to the carnal children of Abraham, who had departed from his faith.
In reality, no one knows how much of true physical Israel has been saved over the course of the last 2000 years. It was considerably more than 1% in the early years. And there has been a steady number of conversions (regrafting of the natural branches) since then.

The only thing we can say for sure about “all Israel” is that it is the exact number of the elect that God intends to save. On that we can be certain.

697 posted on 08/27/2009 10:45:40 AM PDT by topcat54 ("If Israel is 'God's prophetic clock,' then dispensationalists do not know how to tell time.")
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To: Alamo-Girl; Buggman; betty boop; xzins; Dr. Eckleburg
Here is an interesting and, I believe, helpful article on the subject.

Towards a Reformed Israelology

698 posted on 08/27/2009 11:07:47 AM PDT by topcat54 ("If Israel is 'God's prophetic clock,' then dispensationalists do not know how to tell time.")
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To: topcat54
Thank you for the link, dear sister in Christ!
699 posted on 08/27/2009 1:25:27 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
Thank you for the link, dear sister in Christ!

You're welcome, but you must have me confused with someone else.

700 posted on 08/28/2009 8:48:16 AM PDT by topcat54 ("If Israel is 'God's prophetic clock,' then dispensationalists do not know how to tell time.")
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