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Is Benedict in Favor of World Government?
First Things ^ | August 20, 2009 | Douglas A. Sylva

Posted on 08/20/2009 12:30:40 PM PDT by IbJensen

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To: Quix

It’s not a rationalization. I begin to wonder if you understand the term.

The preacherman quoted is lying just enough to rope in the gullible and those inclined to hate the Church founded by Christ simply out of principle.


341 posted on 08/22/2009 7:43:43 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Quix

I can see you just fine.

More than you’ll ever admit.


342 posted on 08/22/2009 7:44:23 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Quix
It is conceivable that Petronski believes deep in his heart and bone marrow that he is leading the pack of the most orthodox, most holy, most Roman Catholic minded, most accurately wedded to the proper Vatican documents of all the world's titular Roman Catholics.

I'm not Roman.

I've explained this to you many times.

343 posted on 08/22/2009 7:45:20 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Star Traveler; hosepipe; Dr. Eckleburg

Yes, he does. For each one.

However, since Petronski has pronounced what

REALITY IS (as usual, quite in contradiction to the reality most of us observ) . . . heaven and earth must kowtow to

the new Petronskian Matrix

or be digitally disintegrated post haste.

LOL.

Most type “A’s” with reactive aggressive anger components in large bureaucratic !!!!TRADITIONI!!!! bound organizations sound that way. It seems to be partly genetic.


344 posted on 08/22/2009 7:46:24 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Marysecretary

Quite the opposite, actually. I understand anti-Catholic hatred when I see it.

The fact that you’re Elim explains it all.


345 posted on 08/22/2009 7:46:58 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Star Traveler

Welcome to the

KEEPER OF THE CRANIAL BRICK WALL for such threads.

Install thick foam helmet before engaging in dialogue.


346 posted on 08/22/2009 7:47:40 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Petronski

Vatican agent, then.


347 posted on 08/22/2009 7:48:25 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: trisham

He didn’t mock God,he was pokin’ fun at the Pope.


348 posted on 08/22/2009 7:49:54 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: hosepipe

I’m so glad to see you back. I’ve missed you. Mary


349 posted on 08/22/2009 7:52:22 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Star Traveler

When my ex-Catholic husband finally got born again, he said,more than once, that it was like a weight lifted off his shoulders to know that God’s grace would never leave him even if he sinned. He knew he could confess his sins to His Saviour and be forgiven right then and there.


350 posted on 08/22/2009 7:56:07 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Petronski

You don’t have a clue, do you Petronski. I feel sorry for you.


351 posted on 08/22/2009 7:59:14 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Marysecretary
[ I’m so glad to see you back. I’ve missed you. ]

Sorry Salmon season hereabouts..
Fileting and smoking some of them..for the fall/winter/spring..
Lots of reds and pinks(humpys) this season.. a few silvers and chums..
Grouse and moose season starts after that..
Don't hunt moosies but I murder a few birds..

352 posted on 08/22/2009 8:01:53 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Quix
You haven't read the text, I see. If you had, you would have understood the Holy Father's assertion that any authentic world political authority must be
1. regulated by law: i.e. based upon a written charter specifying and limiting its power;

2. [founded upon] principles of subsidiarity and solidarity: a "bottom-up" federation of sovereign powers [Ubi societas, ibi ius, "every society draws up its own system of justice"], not a centrally-controlled global superstate;

3. [created to ]establish "the good of... individuals, families and intermediate groups who together constitute society"; and

4. [be committed to] securing authentic integral human development, beyond mere economic and technological growth, and always inspired by the values of charity in truth.

You would also have read his clear statement that "the Church does not have technical solutions to offer, and does not claim 'to interfere in any way in the politics of States.'", but instead has "a mission of truth to accomplish, in every time and circumstance, for a society that is attuned to man, to his dignity, to his vocation." From this it is clear that Caritas is not advocating the establishment of a global superstate (ruled by UFO aliens or otherwise), but instead a cooperative international legal approach (such as a treaty) to regulating global development and finance to prevent the exploitation and misery of the kind that has resulted from the recent economic crisis.

It is important to remember that while Rome has always opposed communism, the Church is not on the side of the USA, or capitalism, or the UN, or the EU, or European people, or any other group. The Church is on the side of the human race, and it is the duty of the pope to represent the species as a whole, Catholic or not, and especially the least among us. I applaud Pope Benedict XVI for doing just that.

353 posted on 08/22/2009 8:12:20 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Marysecretary

Amen to that...


354 posted on 08/22/2009 8:18:22 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: hosepipe

My son in AK salmon fishes, hunts, etc. He regulary meets bears in his travels. Brrr. Well, I’m personally glad you are back amongst us.


355 posted on 08/22/2009 8:23:12 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Petronski

You said — Everyone viewing “The Eternal Jew” can make up their own mind by viewing the comparisons that are made in the film....

Interesting comparison you make... :-)

That a Nazi propaganda film — is likened to — the comparison of the “Bible” vs. “Catechism of the Catholic Church”... LOL...

The Eternal Jew
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eternal_Jew

The Eternal Jew is a 1940 antisemitic German Nazi propaganda film.[1] Its title in German is Der ewige Jude, the German term for the character of the “Wandering Jew” in medieval folklore. At the insistence of Nazi Germany’s Minister of Propaganda, Joseph Goebbels, the film was directed by Fritz Hippler.

[ ... ]


356 posted on 08/22/2009 8:26:00 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: B-Chan

You are WRONG.

I read all that.

It just was obliterated by his other statements and by the

HARD REALITIES

OF THE SATANIC GLOBAL GOVERNMENT ALREADY FIRMLY ENTRENCHED AND TO REMAIN SO UNTIL CHRIST OBLITERATES IT AT ARMAGEDDON.

NO ONE that I have read from your side has YET

to deal with those issues and facts remotely realistically in ANY of the threads and discussions of this encyclical.

NO ONE.


357 posted on 08/22/2009 8:27:58 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: The Invisible Hand; B-Chan; Dr. Eckleburg; IbJensen; Poe White Trash; G Larry; 1000 silverlings; ...

PING TO THE JUST ABOVE REPEATED BELOW:


ALL HIS WONDEROUSLY IDYLLIC STATEMENTS ARE WHOLESALE MEANINGLESS in the face of the global government already in power. And to write that SUCH A GLOBAL GOVERNMENT IS NEEDED only strengthens their hands with the 1.+ billion RC’s.

Hideous.

You are WRONG.

I read all that.

It just was obliterated by his other statements and by the

HARD REALITIES

OF THE SATANIC GLOBAL GOVERNMENT ALREADY FIRMLY ENTRENCHED AND TO REMAIN SO UNTIL CHRIST OBLITERATES IT AT ARMAGEDDON.

NO ONE that I have read from your side has YET

to deal with those issues and facts remotely realistically in ANY of the threads and discussions of this encyclical.

NO ONE.


358 posted on 08/22/2009 8:29:53 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: hosepipe

Where are you in AK? I forget.


359 posted on 08/22/2009 8:31:39 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Star Traveler
That a Nazi propaganda film — is likened to — the comparison of the “Bible” vs. “Catechism of the Catholic Church”... LOL...

You have not proffered a comparison of "the Bible vs." anything.

You are speaking of that lying scoundrel's own personal interpretation of Scripture.

Perhaps it is yours too, I don't know.

Let's review: my comparison was (a) a slick and convincing but deeply deceptive presentation about the faith of a group of people v. (b) the reality about that group of people and their faith.

360 posted on 08/22/2009 8:53:00 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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