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Obama: "Basic Standard Of Decency" Allows Illegals To Be Treated
Real Clear Politics ^ | 8/20/2009 | Video

Posted on 08/20/2009 11:40:08 AM PDT by Lmo56

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To: Lmo56

like anchor-babies?


41 posted on 08/20/2009 12:04:50 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: GonzoGOP

You’ll never see a cent. Drive in California where insurance rates for cars is sky high. You get hit, and the guy tells you his name is Jose Gonzalez. Then try finding him later, lol. Guess who pays more insurance while all the Joses pay none, don’t even have driver’s licenses.


42 posted on 08/20/2009 12:05:39 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: RC2

I believe it’s the 17th Ammendment that they use against us.

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Amendment 17 - Senators Elected by Popular Vote.

The kids can stay - if they produce birth certificate, etc.

HOWEVER, illegal parents COULD NOT ...


43 posted on 08/20/2009 12:06:08 PM PDT by Lmo56
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To: Lmo56

I got NO problem with that - JUST as long as the hospital checks immigration status AND calls ICE if the person is found to be illegal ... ICE THEN deports their ass back to whatever banana republic they came from ...
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This is what just everyday people can’t understand. When we catch illegal aliens, we don’t deport them, we just release them back into the population.


44 posted on 08/20/2009 12:06:36 PM PDT by Brookhaven (http://theconservativehand.blogspot.com/)
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To: Lmo56

Treat everyone one and all, just take the cash out of the general fund.


45 posted on 08/20/2009 12:08:21 PM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: Sloth

JUST as long as the hospital checks immigration status

How exactly would they do that?

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Ask for standards of proof - green card, passport, birth certificate, driver license, etc.

ALSO, check ICE database - ‘specially with GSW’s (gang-related) ...

Thats what they do in Prince William County, VA at the jail ...

EVERYONE charged with an offense is checked ...


46 posted on 08/20/2009 12:10:03 PM PDT by Lmo56
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To: HighlyOpinionated
FDR also kicked out loads of illegals. The historically correct part of the Grapes of Wrath, Steinbeck, had the Joads going to California to replace the Mexicans who were leaving.

Yes Virginia, there was time when Democrats respected honest work.

47 posted on 08/20/2009 12:10:21 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: Brookhaven

When we catch illegal aliens, we don’t deport them, we just release them back into the population.

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I catch and release all the time - WHEN I’M FISHING !!!


48 posted on 08/20/2009 12:11:53 PM PDT by Lmo56
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To: 1000 silverlings
That's why I mentioned an import tariff. As a private citizen you can't collect. But a government can. Just tack it onto anything they send in. They don't have a choice in the matter. If they want to sell goods in the US we take a cut to pay for the costs of their citizens who are here illegally.

And lets say that some Saudis overstay their student visas and take out lower Manhattan. Well then Saudi Arabia pumps oil for free for the next few years. See how fast the Madrassas get closed.
49 posted on 08/20/2009 12:13:00 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world, and they are all out to get me.)
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To: 1000 silverlings

you can’t prove with reasonable certainty that an aborted fetus would grow up and vote dem. He can however with reasonable certainty assume those he treats for free and eventually makes citizens will vote his way.
sorry to be so cynical with life and death but i believe there are no free lunches and everything they wish to do is geared towards locking in a huge majority of voters for their party.


50 posted on 08/20/2009 12:13:57 PM PDT by wiggen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WayzmX0WQvg)
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To: GonzoGOP

kinda like the millions in unpaid parking tickets in NYC from the members of the UN? Those countries?


51 posted on 08/20/2009 12:15:09 PM PDT by wiggen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WayzmX0WQvg)
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To: Lmo56
The kids can stay - if they produce birth certificate, etc.

The kid is a minor and goes back home with their parents. When they are 18 they will be welcomed back.
52 posted on 08/20/2009 12:15:46 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world, and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Aria

All people need to reply to this argument is say, “Look at California.” California has been giving free food and medical care to illegal immigrants for over a decade and its economy is ruined.

The first step is close our borders tightly. Deport all illegals who get caught breaking the law in any way. Go after people who employ illegals. Give only emergency medical treatment to any who really need it. Stop feeding their children free breakfast and lunch. Try very hard to assimilate the law abiding illegals who opt to stay despite these changes.

Many prefer it in Mexico and will leave once the gravy train stops. Many will stay because they’ve had children here and our only hope is to Americanize them. We’ve got to convince them it’s great to be an American.


53 posted on 08/20/2009 12:16:20 PM PDT by Melian ("An unexamined life is not worth living." ~Socrates)
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To: Brookhaven

we should fly them back over their countries and release them.


54 posted on 08/20/2009 12:17:23 PM PDT by wiggen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WayzmX0WQvg)
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To: Lmo56

But - if they KNEW their status would be questioned, they wouldn’t show up for care in the first place. Then ALL the ER’s would have room for the folks who are here legally. Without the question, they are there with their kids at the first sniffle of a cold.


55 posted on 08/20/2009 12:18:03 PM PDT by RebelTXRose
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To: Sloth

The time/place to check immigration status is at the time of employment.

Everyone needs a valid SSN to work in this country. Your employer reports it to the Feds. If they name/SSN don’t match, you can’t work. Simple as that. The problem would clear on its own, as work is what pulls people to this country illegaly.

Every objection I’ve seen to this is just a straw man to throw up some roadblock. Technologically it’s easy (we already do it in fact, we just don’t enforce it.) The empoloyers already supply the information, so it isn’t a burden on employers at all.

The potential mistakes in the SS database are said to be 600,000 (out of a country of 350,000,000, but still probably exagerated since that is a number opponents quote.) That’s a number that can actually be dealt with on an exception basis. Especially if you grandfather in anyone that is currently working (notifying them of a discrepency and so they can get it fixed before they change jobs sometime in the future.) Grandfathered employess wouldn’t face a problem till they changed jobs.


56 posted on 08/20/2009 12:19:14 PM PDT by Brookhaven (http://theconservativehand.blogspot.com/)
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To: wiggen

Put zero, ‘Arms’ and Axelrod in charge of illegal south-of-the-border hospital dumping.


57 posted on 08/20/2009 12:19:14 PM PDT by yorkie01
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To: RC2

No other nation on earth seems to offer this “open borders/open citizenship” policy.

Even Mexico only permits people from Guatemala to enter provided they keep moving north.

Illegal immigrants want free socialized medicine? Let them keep going north to Canada.


58 posted on 08/20/2009 12:19:25 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barry Falsewitness is proud of his "healthy skepticism" of organized religion. He's a deceiver.)
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To: wiggen
Again it is because we choose not to enforce the law, not because we are unable enforce the law. The only nations we couldn't get cash from are those that do not sell anything in the US. There aren't many of those. It is our choice, we just need a government who is more afraid of its own people than offending a bunch of foreign socialists.
59 posted on 08/20/2009 12:19:40 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world, and they are all out to get me.)
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To: wiggen

We had our chance when we were the ones controlling the WH and the Congress.

What a giant screw up to not get rid of the illegals and follow a conservative economic policy when the getting was good.


60 posted on 08/20/2009 12:20:57 PM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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