Posted on 08/16/2009 7:56:07 PM PDT by DavidFarrar
To end the ‘nonsense’ would require providing documentation which will likely contradict what he has claimed and expose him as a criminal fraud. So he really cannot reveal the truth of his past, can he, because it will contradict the fraud he has present in order to raise hundreds of millions and run for and swear oath to be pres_ _ent!
That’s what I was trying to imply. Irony doesn’t translate well on the internet. Should have added the ol’ /sarc. (it gets me everytime).
Thank you David. “By the way, a good question to ask Hawaiian Health officials right about now would be, “Did they save Barack Obama’s “Certificate of Live Birth” application?” I believe that is what Fukino was referring to in her last statement, when she said she had “seen THE original vital records”. Putting your findings together with this, would mean, that more than likely, his birth was registered by mail, and a COLB was issued on a unverified statement by one person, which very likely was his Grandmother.
For Immediate Release: July 27, 2009 09-063
STATEMENT BY HEALTH DIRECTOR CHIYOME FUKINO, M.D.
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”
Good point. It means Hawaiian Health officials’ attestations are only as good as the veracity of the information contained in Obama’s original vital records.
ex animo
davidfarrar
Well, none of this means a dang thing. One of the first points Polarik makes is the impossibility to authenticating a document from a jpg posted on a website, period.
ex animo
davidfarrar
It is quite possible to debunk a document from a jpg, however. If something is missing that should be a part of the document, you can be assured it is not genuine. Under 400 magnification, the image of a purported CoLB first posted by Obama, Factcheck, and DailyKOS has no raised seal distorting the hatch pattern in the paper. Ergo, that image is not what it is claimed to be. Subsequent images of the same document DO have the seal distorting the hatch pattern. Ergo, the subsequent image made of the illict document are just as illicit. And that doesn’t even begin to address what Polarik found regarding the wrong year seal used in the subsequent illicit images.
Yes, it raises the possibility the document is a fake. But no self-respecting forensic document and computer graphic expert is going to authenticate a document from a jpg, as Obama’s team well knows.
ex animo
davidfarrar
Well, I would say it refutes what the posters claimed it was since it did not have the raised seal on first posting. I’m through giving liars and frauds the benefit of the doubt.
I agree. But we are dealing with a dishonorable man, and dishonorable men do not go quitely into the night. They have to be dragged out kicking and screaming all the way.
ex animo
davidfarrar
Much of what can happen depends upon how the parties to the controversy choose to treat the question of whether or not a person with dual citizenship and allegiance, at birth and/or after birth, is eligible to the Office of the President in accordance with the Constitution’s natural born citizen clause and serve as Commander-in-Chief of the American Army as precluded by John Jay’s letter to the Constitutional Convention.
While the direct path remains obstructed at present, are there any attorneys out there who can see an indirect opening? For example, what liability may the parties involved with the Obama COLB incur with respect to 18USC1423 and discovery of evidentiary documents in such a case?
From the U.S. Code Online via GPO Access
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[CITE: 18USC1423]
[Page 333]
TITLE 18—CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I—CRIMES
CHAPTER 69—NATIONALITY AND CITIZENSHIP
Sec. 1423. Misuse of evidence of citizenship or naturalization
Whoever knowingly uses for any purpose any order, certificate, certificate of naturalization, certificate of citizenship, judgment, decree, or exemplification, unlawfully issued or made, or copies or duplicates thereof, showing any person to be naturalized or admitted to be a citizen, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 766; Pub. L. 103-322, title XXXIII, Sec. 330016(1)(K), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)
Great!
Now find a State Attorney either in Chicago, Illinois or in Washington D.C., who will file your complaint, and you have your case.
ex animo
davidfarrar
Yes, very true, which is why extraordinary problems require extraordinary solutions. You have to wonder why it can be accepted for so many false identification documents to be used with impunity:
From the U.S. Code Online via GPO Access
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[CITE: 18USC4]
[Page 10]
TITLE 18—CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I—CRIMES
CHAPTER 1—GENERAL PROVISIONS
Sec. 4. Misprision of felony
Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 684; Pub. L. 103-322, title XXXIII,
Sec. 330016(1)(G), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)
TITLE 18—CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I—CRIMES
CHAPTER 19—CONSPIRACY
Sec. 371. Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United
States
If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be
fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.
If, however, the offense, the commission of which is the object of the conspiracy, is a misdemeanor only, the punishment for such conspiracy shall not exceed the maximum punishment provided for such misdemeanor.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 701; Pub. L. 103-322, title XXXIII,
Sec. 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)
PART I—CRIMES
CHAPTER 47—FRAUD AND FALSE STATEMENTS
Sec. 1001. Statements or entries generally
(a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and
willfully—
(1) falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact;
(2) makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or
(3) makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry;
shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both. If the matter relates to an offense under chapter 109A, 109B, 110, or 117, or section 1591, then the term of imprisonment imposed under this section shall be not more than 8 years.
(b) Subsection (a) does not apply to a party to a judicial proceeding, or that party’s counsel, for statements, representations, writings or documents submitted by such party or counsel to a judge or magistrate in that proceeding.
(c) With respect to any matter within the jurisdiction of the legislative branch, subsection (a) shall apply only to—
(1) administrative matters, including a claim for payment, a matter related to the procurement of property or services, personnel or employment practices, or support services, or a document required by law, rule, or regulation to be submitted to the Congress or any office or officer within the legislative branch; or
(2) any investigation or review, conducted pursuant to the authority of any committee, subcommittee, commission or office of the Congress, consistent with applicable rules of the House or Senate.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 749; Pub. L. 103-322, title XXXIII,
Sec. 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147; Pub. L. 104-292,
Sec. 2, Oct. 11, 1996, 110 Stat. 3459; Pub. L. 108-458, title VI,
Sec. 6703(a), Dec. 17, 2004, 118 Stat. 3766; Pub. L. 109-248, title I,
Sec. 141(c), July 27, 2006, 120 Stat. 603.)
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[CITE: 18USC1028]
[Page 274-278]
TITLE 18—CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I—CRIMES
CHAPTER 47—FRAUD AND FALSE STATEMENTS
Sec. 1028. Fraud and related activity in connection with identification documents, authentication features, and information [....]
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