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Cash for Clunkers: Trade in American, Buy Foreign
townhall.com ^ | August 10, 2009 | Dick Morris and Eileen McGann

Posted on 08/11/2009 5:29:25 AM PDT by kellynla

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To: Caipirabob
So now 4 out of 5 cars sold take those American tax dollars overseas never to return....

It returns, by definition. We might dislike with the way it returns (Treasury security purchases, etc.), but it returns. The idea that Toyota takes its US dollars and stuffs them in a giant mattress in Tokyo is silly.

21 posted on 08/11/2009 6:01:16 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: JohnLongIsland

You are correct.

Citizens being given no choice but to wait in line to buy inferior “domestic” products, when more economical and higher quality items were available for import, was one of the things that made the old Soviet Union so “charming”.


22 posted on 08/11/2009 6:01:22 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: kellynla
My 11 yr old car is a Ford that gets 34mpg. If I were to utilize this program I'd pretty much be forced to by a Japanese hybrid.

This is really another wealth transfer program that takes money from some Americans to subsidize the purchase of cars for others.

23 posted on 08/11/2009 6:04:28 AM PDT by highlander_UW (The only difference between the MSM and the DNC is the MSM sells ad space in their propaganda)
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To: caver

If you’re going to go foreign, get a Korean car. Toyota’s quality has been slipping, while Hyundai’s has been improving a lot. Have you tried a Hyundai Genesis or Azera? I have test driven them. They are nice.

Another interesting thing if you read car blogs and sites, is that Toyota is having trouble making a profit in North America. If they can’t make a profit for too long, they might leave.


24 posted on 08/11/2009 6:18:21 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (ObamaCare is socialism. It will do nothing but increase premature, unnecessary death.)
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To: kellynla

I have bought 5 new Hyundais in our family in the last 6 years. 2 of them now clock 200,000 miles.

Real autos, none ever needed to go bnack to the dealer, built by skilled American labor that wants to work, not some a$$hole Union Thug that wants to sit on his arse. American Built. Built right. Built here.

Screw GM, Chrysler .. the commie auto companies. I’ll NEVER buy on of their products. If Ford goes down the same path .. screw them as well.


25 posted on 08/11/2009 6:18:34 AM PDT by HiramQuick (work harder ... welfare recipients depend on you!)
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To: kellynla
Yep, my mom just traded in her 1999 Cadillac last week for a new Toyota Ultima, take that General Motors.
26 posted on 08/11/2009 6:21:59 AM PDT by Licensed-To-Carry (Time to dig out the pitchforks and torches...............)
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To: kellynla

The DOT list is wrong and manipulated to make it look like Americans want smaller fuel efficient cars. Edmunds has a different list that shows that Americans still want their SUVs and trucks.

The DOT split a vehicle, such as Silverado, up into different vehicles based on engine and transmission options. Thus it looks like Corolla is selling more, since about everything Toyota sells is some sort of Corolla.

Here’s the truth you can’t get from the goernment:
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/edmunds-dots-cash-for-clunkers-top-ten-list-gets-it-wrong/


27 posted on 08/11/2009 6:23:53 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (ObamaCare is socialism. It will do nothing but increase premature, unnecessary death.)
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To: highlander_UW

You can’t use the program. You car gets over 19mpg combined. My ten year old ghetto sled Oldsmobile gets better than 19 mpg easily.


28 posted on 08/11/2009 6:25:05 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (ObamaCare is socialism. It will do nothing but increase premature, unnecessary death.)
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To: HiramQuick

My 2006 Hyundai Sonata was built in Alabama. 75,000 miles on it now and I’d recommend it. Looked at a Chevy Impala at the same time which was built in Ontario Canada. Before that I had a 1998 Olds Intrigue that was also a good car. So was my 1988 Ford Ranger actually.


29 posted on 08/11/2009 6:29:05 AM PDT by McGruff (We have the right to debate and disagree with any administration - Hillary Clinton)
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To: kellynla
Cash for Clunkers will do wonders for the Japanese economy, but its impact on the US job situation is problematic. This unintended consequence is a great illustration of what happens when the blunt tool of government subsidy is applied to the fine tuning of a free market economy. Government planners keep getting it wrong. That's why socialism is such a bad idea.

Every once in a while, despite his best efforts, Dick morris tends to get something right!!

30 posted on 08/11/2009 6:30:35 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: kellynla
Hey, genus.

American cars STINK! That is why GM and Chrysler went tits-up (true, the unions did not help). Long term they fall apart faster than most other makes (Consumer Digest 8-year reliability studies prove this point).

People vote with their dollars - you vote your way, we who purchase Japanese autos made here in America will vote our way.

If you don't like foreign cars - fine -— just don't shut us out of your Town Hall meeting so we cannot have OUR voice heard.

31 posted on 08/11/2009 6:33:18 AM PDT by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really Leo Farnsworth...)
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To: Licensed-To-Carry

Was it a Toyota or was it a Nissan Altima?


32 posted on 08/11/2009 6:33:38 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (ObamaCare is socialism. It will do nothing but increase premature, unnecessary death.)
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To: kellynla

“I support my fellow Americans, genius.”

I sure would like to, genius. The problem is that half of Americans don’t support America.


33 posted on 08/11/2009 6:37:56 AM PDT by caver (Obama's first goals: allow more killing of innocents and allow the killers of innocents to go free.)
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To: MichiganConservative

Actually, I should have stated that my next vehicle will be a truck to replace my Chevy truck. Does Hyundai make a truck?


34 posted on 08/11/2009 6:39:40 AM PDT by caver (Obama's first goals: allow more killing of innocents and allow the killers of innocents to go free.)
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To: DB
Destroying functional things of value...

That is the only thing government does. That's also what is the most disgusting part of this whole program for me.

The vehicles have to be destroyed before the government will even consider issuing a check for the rebate, thus they are ensuring maximum destruction of functional vehicles.

The IRS is also deducting back taxes from the checks and telling the dealers its up to them to go back to the buyer to get that tax money.

This program stinks all over.

35 posted on 08/11/2009 6:42:57 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (ObamaCare is socialism. It will do nothing but increase premature, unnecessary death.)
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To: caver

No, but they make some SUVs they like to compare to Lexus. For full size trucks, you have Chevy/GMC, Ford, Dodge, Toyota, or Nissan. The 2009 Ford F-150 looks very nice and it should continue the tradition of the F-150 being the best selling vehicle in the world.


36 posted on 08/11/2009 6:45:28 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (ObamaCare is socialism. It will do nothing but increase premature, unnecessary death.)
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To: MichiganConservative

Sorry, it was a Nissan Altima.


37 posted on 08/11/2009 6:52:04 AM PDT by Licensed-To-Carry (Time to dig out the pitchforks and torches...............)
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To: caver
“...Does Hyundai make a truck?”

MichiganConservative in #36 has good info.

Honda makes 100% of it's Ridgeline trucks in Alabama - a very good truck if you do not need to tow more than 5,000 pounds. And it's trunk is excellent.

Be wary of the Nissan Titan - they have some bad reliability issues. I don't think you can go wrong with a Ford or Toyota if you need a larger towing capacity.

38 posted on 08/11/2009 6:52:42 AM PDT by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really Leo Farnsworth...)
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To: kellynla
7. Hyndai Elantra

Wait until the fueling system charcoal cannister becomes saturated ............. it shuts off your fuel filler pipe so you cannot gas up your car until you replace the cannister. ie; a deliberate shut down of your car.

39 posted on 08/11/2009 6:54:55 AM PDT by urtax$@work (The best kind of memorial is a Burning Memorial.........)
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To: kellynla

since most of those Asian models are actually being manufactured here in right-to-work states, what he is actually doing is taking UAW produced cars off the road to be replaced by non-union models. As my Brit friends would say, Brilliant!


40 posted on 08/11/2009 6:55:52 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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