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Melee of cyclists / Ogden incident leads to four arrests [Cyclists on a Rampage]
Ogden Standard Examiner ^ | 8/9/2009 | Trent Toone

Posted on 08/09/2009 9:21:20 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity

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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Cyclists are, generally and with a few exceptions, a menace on the hiways and byways and ought to be taxed off the road.

At the very least they ought to have annual licence plates for their contraptions, compulsory third-party and property damage insurance, five year cyclists licences with photo and signature (for which they should sit a test), and they ought to pay a mileage levy just like diesel trucks do, to pay a contribution to the roads that they otherwise use for free. This latter tax could be used to pay for the dedicated cycle lanes that cyclists seem to constantly demand.

Recognizing that kids ride bikes, the above measures should exempt children under the age of eighteen, who should therefore ride on sidewalks and walk their cycles as pedestrians across intersections. As novice riders they should be prohibited to ride alongside roads where the speed limit exceeds 50 MPH, and they should be prohibited to ride after dark or before sunrise.

Sounds sensible to me.


21 posted on 08/09/2009 9:32:34 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: gura

I agree..I live in Portland Oregon and commute on a bike. Critical Mass is a ‘get in your face’, confrontational, disruptive group. They stop traffic, run stop signs, and want to impose their lifestyle on the auto drivers(who pay all the road taxes) that pay for their wonderful bike lanes.


22 posted on 08/09/2009 9:33:02 AM PDT by OregonTide
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
The ride was originally founded in 1992 in San Francisco with the idea of drawing attention to how unfriendly the city was to cyclists.

Roads exist because car owners pay for them. I find it strange that politicians capitulate to bicyclists who use roads paid by others. We need to suggest bike registration and use taxes. that should stir interest among politicians. Change the laws to make bicyclists fully comply with road laws. Make them produce an operator's license and registration when stopped by police. That will really irk the commie b@st@rds.

23 posted on 08/09/2009 9:33:21 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: gura
Not as stupid as getting paid millions to dress up in a costume and throw a ball in a billion dollar climate controlled stadium.

Sounds pretty smart to me!

24 posted on 08/09/2009 9:34:09 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Counter-productive thy name is Critical Mass.


25 posted on 08/09/2009 9:35:03 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: HIDEK6

It only shows the misplaced values in our society. Few things chafe me more than tax dollars being spent on pro sports teams who charge $300 a ticket when I can’t ride my bike because the roads look like the victim of a Serbian mortar attack.


26 posted on 08/09/2009 9:35:56 AM PDT by gura (R-MO)
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As a cyclist, let me be the first to say that Critical Mass is full of whiny pansy ass losers who lacked a father figure growing up.

Let me be the second. Serious cycling for transportation requires coexistence with cars, trucks and buses. It also requires always remembering what will happen in a confrontation with cars, trucks and buses.

The ignorant Gomers that yell "get on the sidewalk" are few and far between. Most motorists are rational enough to understand that if I wasn't next to you on the road on my bike, I'd be in front of you on the road in my car slowing down your commute. Why piss people off with idiotic stunts like this and turn them against you, when originally they barely noticed you?

27 posted on 08/09/2009 9:36:30 AM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: CrazyIvan

I recently had a group of about 8 cyclists, proceed to run a stop sign across a State Highway with a 55 mph speed limit.

I had to test the anti-locks on my F-250 SuperDuty 4X4 to keep from hitting the first one, the others stopped, but then thought they would keep me stopped while they proceeded. One almast ran into the side of me as I went on.

I can’t say I recall an Indiana law that gives cyclist absolute right of way on the roads.


28 posted on 08/09/2009 9:37:10 AM PDT by digger48
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To: gura

Hyperbole for emphasis?


29 posted on 08/09/2009 9:37:31 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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> Cycling is one of the few sports left with real “hard men” in it. The NFL/MLB/NBA should just start handing out mandatory tiaras.

Rugby Union, Rugby League, Aussie Rules, Cricket, Ironman, Surf-Lifesaving and Surfing would be very hi on the list of “Real Man” sports, too.

Ironman has a significant cycling component.


30 posted on 08/09/2009 9:37:54 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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Wow, maybe you should report all of the cyclists in this thread to flag@whitehouse.gov since you can’t be tolerant and respectful of the differing thoughts and action of your fellow citizens.

We should ban putting boats and RV’s on public roads too, since they’re also a slow and dangerous menace.


31 posted on 08/09/2009 9:38:26 AM PDT by gura (R-MO)
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Good for you, Nully!


32 posted on 08/09/2009 9:38:53 AM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: DogBarkTree; Morgana; Sherman Logan; gura
The driver of that vehicle was ultimately captured by the police and was drunk.
The driver narrowly missed police officers facilitating a planned event.
I believe two cyclists were killed in that DUI/DWI accident.
It is a real and unretouched photograph and it looks childish to post it on a serious F.R. thread. Concentrate efforts on the idiot Critical Mass statist libs instead.


33 posted on 08/09/2009 9:39:19 AM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
"A 12-pack of beer was located in Fulks' backpack"

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What a PIKER!!

34 posted on 08/09/2009 9:40:42 AM PDT by BBell
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To: HIDEK6

Well of course. :-)


35 posted on 08/09/2009 9:41:14 AM PDT by gura (R-MO)
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To: CrazyIvan

I agree. I don’t understand the concept of doing something borderline-suicidal to be healthy. Makes about as much sense as skiing out of bounds.


36 posted on 08/09/2009 9:42:00 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

I can only agree, those would be up there too.


37 posted on 08/09/2009 9:42:37 AM PDT by gura (R-MO)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

The problem here is typified by the name of this irresponsible outfit - i.e. critical mass.

All the car/bike problems of which I’m aware stem from large group of cyclists riding en masse which changes the whole dynamic.

Laws should be written to make this sort of mass cycling illegal - unless it is done in such a way (e.g. deserted country roads) so as not to pose problems to other users of the roads.

I have no problems with individual cyclists or pairs of cyclists.

Assemblies of 20 or more cyclists using aggressive tactics to intimidate other users of the roads are where the problem lies and where people are going to hurt.

They should simply be made illegal.

This has nothing whatever to do with people wanting to enjoy the public roadways, or move to a healthier lifestyle.

Riding in large groups has everything to do with mob tactics.

My $.02.


38 posted on 08/09/2009 9:43:01 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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39 posted on 08/09/2009 9:43:33 AM PDT by gura (R-MO)
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> Wow, maybe you should report all of the cyclists in this thread to flag@whitehouse.gov since you can’t be tolerant and respectful of the differing thoughts and action of your fellow citizens.

Aw, sure I can. I can be as tolerant and respectful of my fellow citizens as you like, as soon as my fellow bike-riding free-riding citizens pay their own way and obey the laws of the road just like everybody else.

Until they do “pay-and-obey” they are free-loading scoff-laws whose opinions of how the roads ought to operate are interesting but not overly relevant.


40 posted on 08/09/2009 9:43:52 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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