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A Warning For America From South Africa [Excellent! Must read!]
The National Messenger ^ | January 2005 | Gemma Meyer

Posted on 08/09/2009 8:51:32 AM PDT by upchuck

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There are so many good ideas in this article, I don't know where to begin. Let this suffice:
Once you lose social, cultural, and political dominance, there is no getting it back again.

1 posted on 08/09/2009 8:51:32 AM PDT by upchuck
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To: upchuck
A compellig explanation of why Obama's third world views are so dangerous. Socialist authoritarianism aside, he is reducing the political process to street brawls even as we speak.
2 posted on 08/09/2009 8:57:28 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: upchuck

Whites should have more babies.

This fact alone is reason enough for Liberals to hate Sarah Palin.


3 posted on 08/09/2009 8:59:08 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: upchuck
Americans are, generally, a soft lot. They don't want to quarrel or obstruct the claims of those who believe they were wronged. They like peace and quiet, and they want to compromise and be nice.

Not the ones I have seen lately.

Young and old Americans are p!ssed and getting nastier by the day. There will definitely be a fight...get ready!!!

4 posted on 08/09/2009 8:59:11 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (If the auto industry and banking were Obama's Austria and Czechoslovakia, healthcare is his Poland.)
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To: upchuck

We’ve already seen this happen in the ghettos of our big cities. Now try and get them back. Fresno Calif is trying to get their city back and, from what I hear, are doing a fairly good job of it. You have to have the determination to accomplish this. It takes everyone to get involved and say we will not give up our country.


5 posted on 08/09/2009 9:00:06 AM PDT by RC2
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To: upchuck

Mark


6 posted on 08/09/2009 9:00:48 AM PDT by TFMcGuire (Life is tough. It is even tougher if you are stupid--John Wayne)
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To: upchuck

Thomas Jefferson: “Now and again, the tree of liberty must be nourished with the blood of patriots and tyrants.....it is its natural manure.”

What profound words.

IMHO


7 posted on 08/09/2009 9:02:10 AM PDT by ripley
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To: upchuck

Prophetic.


8 posted on 08/09/2009 9:02:23 AM PDT by CriticalJ
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To: upchuck

This article is RIGHT ON!

I thank you for posting it.

It is happening. THe parallels are OBVIOUS.

ALan Keys, yes, A BLACK man has hinted at the same thing.

Tuesday, March 31, 2009
Zimbabwe in America’s Future?
This morning one of the media lookouts at AIPnews.com drew attention to an article in the Washington Times about the awful conditions in Zimbabwe. In the article images of prison conditions there are likened to photos of inmates just after their liberation from the Nazi death camps. In addition to the horrid prison conditions, the country as a whole is in a state of collapse. “UN agencies estimate that up to three-quarters of Zimbabwe’s estimated 12 million people are malnourished and dependent on food aid. Critics blame bad governance and a land-distribution program that began in 1999 and has left a majority of farms idle. Until 2001, Zimbabwe was a net exporter of food.”

In the fall of 1980 I returned from Mumbai, India, my first posting as a foreign service officer, to take up my new chores as “desk officer” for the BLS countries (Botswana, Lesotho and Swaziland) and assistant desk officer for the newly minted nation of Zimbabwe (formerly Rhodesia). On the way, I stopped in New York to witness Zimbabwe’s admission to the United Nations (August 25, 1980), and got my first glimpse of the successful insurgent leader, Robert Mugabe. Over the years since, I’ve tried to keep up with the subject of my former responsibilities. Like some others, I watched with wary hope, then increasing dismay and grief, as stupid leftist ideology and political ambition overcame common sense and love of country to set Mugabe and his cronies on a path that ultimately destroyed Zimbabwe’s once flourishing economy and turned its promised constitutional system into a paradigmatic wasteland of tyranny and repression.

The shallow advocates of “majority rule” in southern Africa pretend that this is somehow just the result of the personal flaws and failings of Mugabe and the people around him, but this isn’t an adequate explanation. The very idea that the aim of just revolution is “majority rule” has to bear its share of the blame. Of course the socialist mentality that dominates all too many among America’s foreign policy elite (including the black elites that professed such burning interest in justice for blacks in southern Africa) tacitly approves the notion that unalloyed “majority rule” is a just and sustainable form of government. The short and tragic history of Zimbabwe is a classic illustration of why, as Artemus Ward might say, that notion is among “the things we know that just ain’t so.”

From ancient times (see for example Book VIII of Plato’s Republic) pure democracy has been identified as perhaps the most unstable form of government. It’s like a radioactive element with a short half-life fated to break down speedily into its next form. Under the influence of demagogues pure democracy declines to mob rule which feeds such a collapse of order and security that people literally beg for the iron hand of tyranny to rescue them from calamity. Years ago, as I helped to staff those who were participating in discussions about the political future of southern Africa, this often came to my mind. It tempered my enthusiasm for seemingly quick paths to black majority rule that paid no attention to the need for carefully considered institutions that would avoid the inevitable tendency of pure democracy to give birth to destructive tyranny. Later, as an Assistant Secretary of state, I gave a speech to the National Urban league that reflected these concerns. I was caricatured by the propaganda hit men of the left, derided as some kind of tool of intransigent, racist whites simply because I refused to forget that the productive cooperation of the white minority would be absolutely essential to the success of the new forms of government emerging in the region. (Though events have proven me right, to this day I am slurred by leftist blacks for showing this concern. For some people there is no sin more unforgivable than to see the truth before they do.)

In Zimbabwe this meant avoiding what I thought of as the tragic mistake of the Gracchi brothers, whose precipitous implementation of “land reforms” (redistribution of land from the aristocratic few to the land-poor majority) hastened the collapse of the Roman Republic. No historical parallels are exact, of course, but they can suggest principles to keep in mind. In Zimbabwe’s case this meant realizing that the imperative of economic and social success required respect for the demonstrated expertise and success of the several thousand white farming families whose adaptation of modern techniques had produced a little agricultural miracle. In countries large and small, the first prerequisite of economic development seems to be the sustained and efficient generation of large surpluses in the farm economy. The burgeoning urban areas so characteristic of rapidly expanding industrial and technological economies mean that expansive non-farm populations must be fed. Master this challenge, and there’s a solid foundation for sustained economic growth. Fail to master it (as for instance the old Soviet Union did) and even great natural advantages (arable land, metal and mineral resources, etc.) resist the possibility of material success.

The framers of Zimbabwe’s constitution needed to eschew sloganeered thinking about majority rule and devise ways to assure constitutional mechanisms that gave the white minority enough political clout to hamper any efforts simply to despoil them of their wealth. The result would have done more than avoid economic folly. It would have encouraged white/black coalitions that hampered the implementation of the kind of demagogic mob politics Mugabe has used to fortify his political power at the expense of his country’s happiness.

These days, Americans should not think of these reflections on Zimbabwe’s plight as curious thoughts about a distant misery. I have frequently made the point that, given his upbringing and ideology, Barack Obama doesn’t represent the heritage of Black Americans. In both respects, however, he more than adequately represents the characteristics of tragically failed socialist leaders in Africa, like Robert Mugabe. Can we see his politically motivated orgy of debt financed spending as the demagogue’s destructive disregard for the real well being of the nation? Can we see in his bid for dictatorial control of the economic sector preparation for the disastrous subordination of economic sense to political ambition? Though he is not alone in doing so (his sold-out Democrat and Republican colleagues share in his actions) will his calculated acts of “creative destruction” turn the once flourishing strength of the American people into a wrecked and timorous shadow of its former self? On all sides, the political elite in this country seemed ready to abandon the constitutional system of self-government in favor of a mobocratic implementation of pure democracy that temporarily allows demagogues to flourish, while they rape and pillage the hopes of the people they mislead. Is there more than a little Zimbabwe in our future?

http://loyaltoliberty.blogspot.com/2009/03/zimbabwe-in-america-future.html


9 posted on 08/09/2009 9:05:45 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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Millions around the world want your good life. But make no mistake: They care not for the high-minded ideals of Thomas Jefferson and George Washington, and your Constitution. What they want are your posessions, your power, and your status.

And they already know that their allies among you, the "human rights activists," the skillful lawyers and the left-wing politicians will fight for them, and not for you. They will exploit your compassion and your Christian charity, and your good will.

They have studied you, Mr. and Mrs. America, and they know your weaknesses well.

They know what to do.

Do you?
That is pretty much it in a nutshell.
10 posted on 08/09/2009 9:06:33 AM PDT by smith288 (Americans suffer from Stockholm Syndrome with the government)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

I was thinking the same! We are going to take it!


11 posted on 08/09/2009 9:07:17 AM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts (“Cap and Trade bill tells us how to live.. Health Care bill tells us how to die.” Bauer and Rose)
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I was thinking the same! We are NOT going to take it!


12 posted on 08/09/2009 9:07:43 AM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts (“Cap and Trade bill tells us how to live.. Health Care bill tells us how to die.” Bauer and Rose)
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To: upchuck

bookmark


13 posted on 08/09/2009 9:07:46 AM PDT by tentmaker
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To: upchuck

Great article.


14 posted on 08/09/2009 9:08:37 AM PDT by I Hate Obama ("Life Is Like A Box of Chocolates, You Never Know What You're Gonna Get." -Forest Gump)
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To: CriticalJ

And scary.


15 posted on 08/09/2009 9:08:43 AM PDT by Nexx9
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To: SatinDoll

My Wife and I have four healthy strong and bright sons ages 9,7,5,4...........and they are raised in an unapologetic Christ-filled home!


16 posted on 08/09/2009 9:09:51 AM PDT by mkcc30 (Their lying tongues will become their nooses.)
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the shrewd assessment by African tyrants that the white man has many Achilles' heels, the most significant of which are his compassion, his belief in the "equality of man," and his "love your neighbor" philosophy - none of which are part of the Third World's history.

We must not let them mistake our kindness for weakness

17 posted on 08/09/2009 9:11:25 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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“We’ve already seen this happen in the ghettos of our big cities.”

...Yes, exactly!....and it’s getting worse...Baltimore, New Orleans, Atlanta come to mind...see Thomas Chittum’s “Civil War Two” for a glimpse at the coming breakup of the U.S.
http://www.timebomb2000.com/misc/CWII.pdf


18 posted on 08/09/2009 9:12:13 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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Millions around the world want your good life. But make no mistake: They care not for the high-minded ideals of Thomas Jefferson and George Washington, and your Constitution. What they want are your posessions, your power, and your status.

What 0bama and his ilk don't realize is that the "high minded ideals" of Jefferson and Washington enable a society to have the good life. Once those values are swept away we just become another third-world stink hole.

19 posted on 08/09/2009 9:16:11 AM PDT by RedStateGuyTrappedinCT (I'm one of the undecided. Is BamBam more corrupt than Clinton or more incompetent than Carter?)
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. . . and the gall of this moron named obama - he goes around the world apologizing for evil of America.

I despise him.


20 posted on 08/09/2009 9:16:22 AM PDT by Bluebird Singing
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