Posted on 08/05/2009 11:19:06 PM PDT by neverdem
They already have a deal with the Obama crew. See the NYT article posted here today.
Trust me, the pharmaceutical companies aren’t going to get screwed by this. They’re partners in it. We will be taxed to pay them whatever the government wants them to get paid. When the government controls the list of approved medications (which is already explicitly the case in Medicare/Medicaid, and in European countries with socialist health care), the government can shovel any amount of money into the pharma companies pockets — government controls the prices, and we have to pay the taxes to foot the bill.
Yeah the deal was to cut drug costs
I repeat SENIORS are the biggest users of drugs and they won’t be getting them
“I repeat SENIORS are the biggest users of drugs and they won’t be getting them.”
I do not accept your hysterical opinion.
And I dont accept yours
Fair enough!
Not really you called mine HYSTERICAL just like a lib would do
Of course, you are hysterical.
So are all those at the Townhall meetings protesting Obama care especially the seniors
House Tri-Committee Bill Would Hurt Patients and Kill Jobs
"PhRMA opposes the House Tri-Committee bill because it undercuts the main goal of health care reform which is to help all Americans access needed healthcare coverage and services. The bill would effectively act as a tax increase by raising premiums for seniors in the popular Medicare prescription drug program, severely restrict patient access and choice and hurt an innovative sector that currently employs hundreds of thousands of workers. The result could mean significant job losses in the middle of a recession. In addition, the legislation allows broad override of protections for Medicare and Medicaid beneficiaries by unelected officials, with no chance for review."Under the House bill, we're concerned that the federal government will wind up rationing health care and dictating what medicines doctors can prescribe to their patients. This may well prevent patients from gaining access to the critically important medicines they need to fight diseases such as cancer, diabetes and heart disease.
Do you have news articles or other things you can link us to about the French system? It would sure be helpful.
Even if it’s in French and not English, that’s fine, we can get it translated.
Merci.
Window dressing. You skipped the intro when you excerpted that:
“PhRMA remains committed to working with the Administration and Congress to help enact comprehensive health care reform this year. Our policy agreement with the White House and the Senate Finance Committee, which provides $80 billion in meaningful cost-savings over 10 years, clearly demonstrates that commitment. We share the same goal of helping ensure that all Americans have access to affordable, high-quality health care coverage and services.”
They are working WITH the administration to craft a plan that works for THEM. Further reality check here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/06/health/policy/06insure.html?ref=health
“Pressed by industry lobbyists, White House officials on Wednesday assured drug makers that the administration stood by a behind-the-scenes deal to block any Congressional effort to extract cost savings from them beyond an agreed-upon $80 billion. . . . But failing to publicly confirm Mr. Tauzin’s descriptions of the deal risked alienating a powerful industry ally currently helping to bankroll millions in television commercials in favor of Mr. Obama’s reforms.”
Trust me, the pharma industry lobbyists aren’t pouring millions into ads to sell the nation on Obamacare because they’re eager to be put out of business.
Oh for heaven’s sake, go join a mob!
/s
They are like all lobbiests
They are trying to insure they get less screwed by government regs etc etc
They are being blackmailed into supporting t the plan
Again SENIORS are the biggest consumers of drugs
Unless the Pharms are hoping the GOV requires everybody to do statins etc
I am over 70 and have no fear of losing drug coverage.
However, future competent medical care is entirely a different issue.
Seniors already have extensive government coverage through the existing Medicare scheme. The new scheme being proposed is mainly about adding NON-seniors to a big new government program. Hundreds of thousands of under-65 deadbeats, drug addicts, alcoholics, etc. who are currently uninsured because they don’t work at jobs that provide coverage (and in many cases never did), and don’t have money to buy insurance (though nobody would be likely to sell them insurance anyway, nor would they willingly spend money on insurance when they’d rather spend it on booze or meth or whatever). THESE will be the primary new entrants into the government insurance plan, and THESE will be the primary source of new prescription medication sales for the pharma companies. The seniors are all already on the various Medicare schemes, and the pharma companies already have that captive market in their pockets.
Sure, Obama & Co. are painting a picture in which the main beneficiaries of the new scheme would be hard-working people who’ve recently lost insurance because they lost their jobs. But statistically, this doesn’t hold water when the scheme is to make *everybody* get insurance. There really aren’t that many people who are newly uninsured due to the economic downturn, but there are lots and lots of people who were never insured because they’re deadbeats. This scheme is about adding huge numbers of people to already bulging rolls of people who are “entitled” to have the government (i.e. taxpayers) buy them whatever drugs the government-regulated doctors say they “need” — in other words, artificially increasing the total market for prescription drugs. What’s there for a pharma company not to love? This is like bicycle manufacturers and a proposed “green” law to require everyone in the country to own a working bicycle, with the government to buy it for them if they “can’t afford” to buy it themselves.
Aren’t deadbeats etc already getting any medical care they need throgh emergency rooms and or medicaid
What causes you to be afraid?
Bump for tomorrow.
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