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1 posted on 07/29/2009 8:52:04 PM PDT by pissant
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Love it! Well done. I gave this seemy story a spin today. But i enjoyed your version more!
50 posted on 07/29/2009 10:54:15 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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State law prohibits the Department of Health from disclosing any information about a Hawaii vital record unless the requestor has a direct and tangible interest in the record. This includes verification of vital records and all the information contained in a record.

Unless Obama (or someone else with a "direct and tangible interest") authorized the disclosure by Fukino that the vital record consisting of his birth records states that he was born in Hawaii, Fukino has violated this prohibition.

It is astonishing that no journalist has asked Fukino if Obama communicated with her to authorize her statement, and what the substance of that communication was. American journalists put the old Soviet Pravda and Izvestia to shame in terms of corruption.

I am not aware of any privilege or confidentiality right that would apply to any such communication between Obama and the State of Hawaii Department of Health. If Fukino refuses to disclose it, I would expect that state FOIA laws could be used to uncover it.

If there was no authorization from Obama, on what legal basis did Fukino disclose the fact that Obama's birth records state he was born in Hawaii?

59 posted on 07/29/2009 11:37:24 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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Please see MY PERSONAL ACCOUNT with Janice Okubo ON Monday, July 27, that led to the release of the latest Press Release verifying Obama is a NBC and Hawaiian Born.

I think you will find them VERY interesting. And let me know what you think.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2304218/posts

And then see my other interesting post:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2304248/posts


62 posted on 07/30/2009 4:13:13 AM PDT by MissTickly
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Pissant-

This is the FULL request I made to Ms. Okubo this morning:

Ms. Okubo-

Under the Uniform Information Practices Act of the State of Hawaii, “...the people are vested with the ultimate decision-making power. Government agencies exist to aid the people in the formation and conduct of public policy. Opening up the government processes to public scrutiny and participation is the only viable and reasonable method of protecting the public’s interest. Therefore the legislature declares that it is the policy of this State that the formation and conduct of public policy—the discussions, deliberations, decisions, and action of government agencies—shall be conducted as openly as possible.”

Please send me an electronic copy of the written criteria, that must be satisfied, by which the Director of the Hawaii Department of Health determines that a person, whose vital records she has statutory authority over, is a natural-born American citizen.

Please send me an electronic copy of any written communications between the Hawaii Department of Health and Barack Obama or anyone claiming to represent Barack Obama concerning Mr. Obama’s birth certificate, certificate of live birth, certification of live birth, and/or supplementary birth certificate or certification of live birth from Jan. 1, 2008 through July 29, 2009.

Please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has President Barack Obama’s SUPPLEMENTARY BIRTH CERTIFICATE on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARRY SOETORO’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARRY DUNHAM’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARACK SOETORO’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARACK DUNHAM’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARRY H. SOETORO’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARRY H. DUNHAM’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARACK H. SOETORO’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARACK H. DUNHAM’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

If you have no confirmation on any or all of the above, please send me that, too.

Please consider this request as a Hawaii UIPA (Uniform Information Practices Act) request under section 92F-12.


64 posted on 07/30/2009 4:49:03 AM PDT by MissTickly
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Good points - the statement is less than what it first appears to be.


71 posted on 07/30/2009 7:36:38 AM PDT by cvq3842 (Countless thousands of our ancestors died to give us the freedoms we have today. Stay involved!)
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"I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school." -- Barack Obama, Dreams of My Father

Of course, he never did indicate WHERE the birth certificate was issued, did he?


In my attempt to learn more about the Hawaiian birth certificate program, I came across the book, "In the name of Hawaiians" by Rona Tamiko Halualani. In the book, the author interviews many Hawaiians who voice frustration with the Hawaiian Health Office and the DHHL for sloppy record keeping of Vital Statistics. Here's an excerpt:

Missing Hawaiian birth certificate - excerpt from In the Name of Hawaiians


What if there is a HINT of truth to CNN's claim that there is no birth certificate for Mr. Obama? Let's say the state of Hawaii, with formal permission of Mr. Obama, releases a statement that says something like:

"Due to clerical oversight in years past, the originally-filed birth certificate of Barack H. Obama II has been lost. In accordance with state policies and procedures, the Certification of Live Birth is the birth certificate of record for Barack H. Obama II."

It would be awfully convenient for Mr. Obama, but true as far as the state of Hawaii is concerned in this example.

IF something like that were to happen, what would be the next step in confirming Mr. Obama's qualifications to hold office as president?


75 posted on 07/30/2009 8:36:01 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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What exactly would Fukino mean by "original vital records"? I'm not arguing for her, but to the casual observer, an "original" record would be a record that has never been altered. In what way could she have parsed that phrase so that although the vault BC stated Obama was born abroad, some "original vital record" stated, to the contrary, that he was born in Hawaii? Could the "original vital record" to which she referred have been merely a later application for a vault BC copy, perhaps submitted by the Obama family when Barack entered kindergarten? (In this regard, it should be noted that the BC copies for the Nordyke twins displayed on the Advertiser web site were obtained by their mother at about the time they entered kindergarten with Barack: in 1966.)
90 posted on 07/30/2009 1:27:30 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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Great essay, pissant. You make Sgt. Joe Friday look like an amateur.


92 posted on 07/30/2009 1:35:05 PM PDT by Faith
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I read this again. This is excellent. All FR should read this. Great job. This is so coordinated by Obama’s lawyers and thugs in the media. THis is like Slick trying to make the Monica thing go away by parsing, spinning and having the lib media cover for O.
105 posted on 07/30/2009 5:51:39 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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