Posted on 07/25/2009 9:03:56 AM PDT by trueamerica
Well,Jonny, Austria’s plan sounds better than many others —
I know some well-to-do Norwegians who come to the U.S. on occasion to visit relatives. They wait to get vision check-ups, just as one example, because trying to get appointments and then new eyeglasses can take MONTHS in Norway.
Here, they arrive, see an eye doc, get prescriptions, and get their glasses all within a few days == just part of their vacatio. They are happy to pay out of pocket for this as it is much cheaper in the long run than waiting around for ‘care’ in Norway.
New Horizons was the medicare supplement. But we found out that if medicare denies the claim then so does the supplement. Not sure if they’re all like that but this is something to look out for.
My mother had two issues going on and they only covered one, the rehab hospital screwed up, etc. and the result was a bunch of $.
I had a business for a long time and we had worker’s comp claims. I found out how inefficient government is and it was infuriating. I finally hired a private detective and presented the evidence to the state and finally got rid of some fraud that was costing us BIG time. Meanwhile I heard of many similar horror stories. To think the rats want to turn over the power of our life and death to the government is horrifying.
Well, what I didn’t say was that my mother’s other hip broke when she was 84. She lost her appetite, therapy was impossible, and she died weeks after surgery because she said “no” to a feeding tube. So, I know both side of that coin.
Well,Jonny, Austria’s plan sounds better than many others —
I know some well-to-do Norwegians who come to the U.S. on occasion to visit relatives. They wait to get vision check-ups, just as one example, because trying to get appointments and then new eyeglasses can take MONTHS in Norway.
Here, they arrive, see an eye doc, get prescriptions, and get their glasses all within a few days == just part of their vacatio. They are happy to pay out of pocket for this as it is much cheaper in the long run than waiting around for ‘care’ in Norway.
It really depends on the person’s condition. My grandmother developed colon cancer at 85. She had surgery and lived another 12 years. All but the last two, she lived independently and had a full life.
Should she have been given nothing but palliative care because of her age even though she was an active, independent person who could still drive and had full mental competency?
However, our President and Congress will NOT have the people's plan. They will stay on their present non govt. run Mercedes line of care, while we peons fight with bureaucrats standing in the way of any care we need that is not in the formulary.
Medicare is, of course, already socialized medicine, but we choose and pay for supplements out of pocket to pay for the 20% of allowable Medicare does not cover. So most people on Medicare are paying around $240.00 each per month for what we are getting now. If we want something more, we go privately and pay out of pocket. Medicare and other govt. entities are fraught with fraud and corruption.
We do need reform, but not the kind that puts a bureaucrat between us and our dr.and rations care on a one size fits all.
Today it would be rationing for elderly, but high risk children, too, I am afraid would have their lives weighed against cost of care.
vaudine
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However, our President and Congress will NOT have the people's plan. They will stay on their present non govt. run Mercedes line of care, while we peons fight with bureaucrats standing in the way of any care we need that is not in the formulary.
Medicare is, of course, already socialized medicine, but we choose and pay for supplements out of pocket to pay for the 20% of allowable Medicare does not cover. So most people on Medicare are paying around $240.00 each per month for what we are getting now. If we want something more, we go privately and pay out of pocket. Medicare and other govt. entities are fraught with fraud and corruption.
We do need reform, but not the kind that puts a bureaucrat between us and our dr.and rations care on a one size fits all.
Today it would be rationing for elderly, but high risk children, too, I am afraid would have their lives weighed against cost of care.
vaudine
Lawmakers Confirm House Health Care Bill Promotes Euthanasia Among Elderly
Yep.
OTOH, a wonderful lady (82 years young) announced in church today that she continually tells her doctor that she is "far too young to have that kind of surgery" (a knee replacement) I hope that I have that same attitude if I should reach that age.
Well, at least the woman in this story was able to pay for her own procedure.
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