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Can Obama even BE impeached?
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Posted on 07/24/2009 9:52:17 AM PDT by 2harddrive

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To: ReignOfError

Exactly what I’ve been saying. Even if BHO was born in Kenya we are a day late and a dollar short. He was elected. He was certified. The Electoral College confirmed him. We (not us, the voters in general) made our bed, now we have to sleep in it. There was plenty of information documenting BHO’s well known ties and associations with dangerous radicals, communists, and terrorists, but the people of this country could have cared less. Democracy is a joke in this country. We should go back to the republic.


42 posted on 07/24/2009 10:44:33 AM PDT by Welcome2thejungle
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To: 2harddrive

if that was the situation... frontal assault followed by a kick in the pants onto the street.

i would also support bringing back the public stocks at that point (think medieval england and rotten vegetables)


43 posted on 07/24/2009 10:52:18 AM PDT by sten
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To: 2harddrive

He holds the office of President, he can be impeached.

The military can remove him. They have an obligation to follow lawful orders. If this guy cannot be president, they cannot lawfully follow his orders. If they do they are as guilty as he is. Difference is they will receive jail time.


44 posted on 07/24/2009 10:56:45 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: 2harddrive

It’s inconceivable that Obama and his high-class lawyers would use that defense. If he did, his popularity would plummet to zero and he’d be ridden out of town on the proverbial rail.


45 posted on 07/24/2009 10:58:39 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: cynwoody
Sorry, but that won't suffice. To change the Constitution, amendment is required. That requires the 2/3rds majority from both houses and the ratification by 3/4ths of the several States, but it is irrelevant whether or not the president signs a bill of amendment; this has simply become custom and is not mentioned in the Constitution.

Article 5.

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

46 posted on 07/24/2009 10:59:22 AM PDT by SAJ
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To: 2harddrive

You do NOT want this to happen.

I’m old enough to remember the chaos after Nixon’s impeachment and resignation. You could seriously argue that Clinton’s misdeeds and impeachment gave al Queda an open door to hone their plots against us.

Bringing down a head of state does no good to the state. It is a tragedy.

The last thing our nation needs at this critical time is a constitutional crisis.

That said, I want Obama exposed. I want him discredited. I want the truth out. I want him to be politically impotent. I want his party, those who are responsible for this mess, to lose badly in next year’s elections.

Then we can take care of business in 2012.


47 posted on 07/24/2009 11:01:57 AM PDT by Jedidah ("Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana)
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To: allmost

It’s real simple the US Military will hold the gun to Congress’ head to act and impeach him. If Congress doesn’t act, they will move and it won’t be pretty.


48 posted on 07/24/2009 11:02:26 AM PDT by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: Cicero

I think that sleazy lawyers will try ANYTHING the Courts will approve.


49 posted on 07/24/2009 11:07:50 AM PDT by 2harddrive (S)
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To: SAJ
To change the Constitution, amendment is required.

No amendment would be needed. The Constitution already grants Congress the power to set the rules of citizenship. The problem with a Mombasa birth would be that Stanley Ann wasn't quite old enough to pass on citizenship. That's a mere technical problem within Congress's jurisdiction.

50 posted on 07/24/2009 11:09:08 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Welcome2thejungle

“I don’t think any of the top brass in the military have the cojones to do such a thing.”

You would be suprised about how many of them that will do it in a heartbeat. They have the legal authority and allegience to defend the Constitution to do so.


51 posted on 07/24/2009 11:10:12 AM PDT by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: DarthVader

That sounds far from ‘’simple’’ to me.


52 posted on 07/24/2009 11:11:09 AM PDT by allmost
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To: 2harddrive

I could see this play out in federal court with a challenge of his eligibility. If the courts...certainly to be appealed up to the SCOTUS ..determine his ineligibility he would be removed from office and Biden would become President. The next problem would be what to do with executive orders and bills signed into law by him ...again more court challenges.


53 posted on 07/24/2009 11:11:47 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: Jedidah

I remember Watergate as well. In the larger scheme of things, Watergate was a relatively minor scandal, almost a juvenile prank by Washington standards.

No matter how liberal many of Richard Nixon’s domestic policies were, the liberal/left in this country would never forgive him for outing their golden boy, Alger Hiss, for being the despicable communist traitor he really was.

The liberals were waiting to nail Nixon on ANYTHING they could grab a hold on. Watergate was ALL ABOUT PAYBACKS. Period.


54 posted on 07/24/2009 11:13:34 AM PDT by Welcome2thejungle
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To: allmost

It is “simple”. It’s the law and it is one of the role’s and responsibilities of our military built into the Constitution by our forefathers to ensure that if a tyrannical government is elected it can be removed by force if necessary. The military is autonomous and will follow the civilian leadership if it is legal. If that leadership becomes criminal and subversive to the Constitution they will destroy it.


55 posted on 07/24/2009 11:18:02 AM PDT by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: 2harddrive
Impeachment aside, this would be a SHTF moment:

- should the elections be nullified?

- should the entire Administration be removed?

- should Judges appointed by Obama resign?

- Laws signed by Obama invalid, including Porkulus?

- US military will no longer have valid CiC, what then?

- GM gets it's former CEO back, bankruptcy nullified? etc etc

56 posted on 07/24/2009 11:20:54 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Welcome2thejungle
A better idea would be to take back the Congress next year. We could at leat put a stop to BHO’s Marxist policies.

Which is exactly why Hussein is in a hurry to ramrod all of his Marxist ideals through to law THIS year.
57 posted on 07/24/2009 11:20:54 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (Forget going Galt. Its time to go Braveheart.)
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To: DarthVader

Well I hope I am surprised then. I hope you are a right and I am wrong. I think a lot of the top brass in DC are political armchair generals and pencil pushers and do what they are told. I hope and pray I am wrong, but this is my impression.

What ammounts to a military coup would be entirely unprecedented in the history of our nation which has a long standing tradition of civilian control over the military.


58 posted on 07/24/2009 11:20:54 AM PDT by Welcome2thejungle
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To: Outlaw Woman
Go in and physically remove the SOB.

And lets not stop with him. Continue on to the house and the senate too.
59 posted on 07/24/2009 11:22:07 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (Forget going Galt. Its time to go Braveheart.)
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To: The Great RJ

But if Biden was selected by a candidate not qualified to run to begin with, is Biden legally the VP? What about the entire administration?


60 posted on 07/24/2009 11:22:52 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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