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USA Buys Russia’s Su-27 Jets From Ukraine to Find Out Why F-15 Is So Bad
pravda ^ | 20.07.2009

Posted on 07/21/2009 5:13:09 AM PDT by pobeda1945

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1 posted on 07/21/2009 5:13:09 AM PDT by pobeda1945
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Well, it is Pravda, afterall. I think they are about as, maybe more, trustworthy than the US mainstream media.


2 posted on 07/21/2009 5:15:05 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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LOL


3 posted on 07/21/2009 5:15:10 AM PDT by A. Morgan (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. Lawrence)
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Not buying it. This was from “Pravda”....


4 posted on 07/21/2009 5:15:31 AM PDT by Nabber
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Its okay - we don’t need the f22.

Pay no attention...


5 posted on 07/21/2009 5:15:44 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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Thanks I needed a good laugh this morning. The F-15 can easily wipe the SU out in any test. BTW the F-15 is like 120 to 1 kill ratio with no loses against Russian and French hardware.
6 posted on 07/21/2009 5:16:32 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: Nabber

If it was from the NYT you could dismiss it out of hand.


7 posted on 07/21/2009 5:17:21 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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Funny - at least 10 years difference between the designs, and starting with the F-15 in front of the saddled Su-27, and the F-15 doesn’t lose every time?

One can always set up a scenario where the lesser technology wins. In a phone booth you are better off with a knife than a rifle.


8 posted on 07/21/2009 5:19:23 AM PDT by ko_kyi
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To: Travis T. OJustice

I would trust Pravda more than I would trust Newsweek, for example.

Not much either way, but the MSM is horrible.


9 posted on 07/21/2009 5:19:58 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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I think the MSM watched Pravda closely to learn how they do things.


10 posted on 07/21/2009 5:20:17 AM PDT by wastedyears (The Tree is thirsty and the hogs are hungry.)
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One can always set up a scenario where the lesser technology wins. In a phone booth you are better off with a knife than a rifle.

Unless you happen to walk into Superman's phonebooth.

Then you're f***ed.

11 posted on 07/21/2009 5:20:58 AM PDT by Zeppelin (Where have you gone, Joe McCarthy, oh? A nation turns illiberel eyes to you...oo oo oo...)
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LOL.
What a hunk of horseshit.

The US buys Russian hardware for a variety of reasons.
1. Yes, to test and evaluate them.
2. To get them out of irresponsible hands. Some of these jets, particularly the SU-27, are nuclear-capable. We’ve been buying them up for nearly two decades.

However, the SU-27 is a pretty good aircraft, and the F-15 is well over 30 years old. We need to keep up because we aren’t always going to be fighting “freedom fighters”.


12 posted on 07/21/2009 5:21:29 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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Such as an F-15 going up against a dozen SU-27s?


13 posted on 07/21/2009 5:21:40 AM PDT by wastedyears (The Tree is thirsty and the hogs are hungry.)
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>One can always set up a scenario where the lesser technology w...

Since we were the participants are you saying that we set it up so?


14 posted on 07/21/2009 5:21:43 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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I just LOL’d


15 posted on 07/21/2009 5:22:05 AM PDT by wastedyears (The Tree is thirsty and the hogs are hungry.)
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My brother-in-law flew F-15s out of Langley in 1992. I’ve just sent him a copy of the article, and I’ll post his reply when I receive it.


16 posted on 07/21/2009 5:22:39 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Achtung. preparen zie fur die obamahopenchangen.)
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>Not buying it. This was from “Pravda”....

“Pravda” is no longer Communist Party’s voice.
http://english.pravda.ru/about/


17 posted on 07/21/2009 5:22:50 AM PDT by pobeda1945
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Since we were the participants are you saying that we set it up so?

From the tiny smattering of actual facts in the article, it sounds like it. Much as a football team practices going for 4th and 9, or attempts a 55 yard field goal, why wouldn't our pilots train to recover from a disadvantage?

Technology aside, our pilots fly so many more hours than almost any other nation, you could probably swap equipment, run the exercise a year later, and get similar results.

18 posted on 07/21/2009 5:25:00 AM PDT by ko_kyi
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You and those s***heads at Pravda have incorrectly identified an artist's image of an F-14 as an Su-27.

There's no truth in Pravda, and there's no news in Izvestia.

19 posted on 07/21/2009 5:27:44 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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“Pravda” is no longer Communist Party’s voice.

Correct. Pravda is now Putin's voice.

20 posted on 07/21/2009 5:28:16 AM PDT by SampleMan (Socialism enslaves you & kills your soul.)
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