Ebay seller a scam.

World Net Daily ^ | 7/19/09 | Drew Zahn

[trumandogz]

I posted that *one reference* to pterodactyls that you mentioned in that eBay scammer thread too... and it was nothing more than a “one-sentence reference” to *reports* that some had given about seeing them in some remote regions of the world. One sentence about someone else’s reports and nothing else ever mentioned about the “pterodactyl” word in at least ten years.

It was not just a one sentence reference by some random contributer to WND who stated that he believes that pterodactyls are flying over out heads, it was the Editor-in-Chief on WND who states that he believes that pterodactyls are still living on this earth.

And no, it was not more than ten years ago that the Editor-in-Chief of WND wrote that he believes that pterodactyls are still alive, but rather it was in 2004.

It sounds more like you’re trying to find something to support your own personal dislike for WorldNetDaily’s “Christian worldview” in their articles and writers.

Sorry, but the idea that pterodactyls are flying over Africa is not part of any rational “Christian worldview.”

[Spaulding]

Star Traveler, the “goods” have been there for everyone to see since long before the election - while congress was holding hearings on John McCain's difficulty satisfying the Article II Section 1 para 5 “natural born citizen provision of the constitution. Obama’s father, so Obama himself says, was a British-Kenyan citizen, making the son a British citizen by birth, and disqualifying Obama from holding the offices of President or Vice President. If he is a citizen, he may be a senator, or congressman, but not president unless his citizenship was granted not by law, as is a naturalized citizen or 14th amendment citizen, but by nature - born of the soil and to parents who are citizens. This provision, which was not unique to Vattel, was an attempt to insure the allegiance of a president, who was also commander in chief, because allegience was most likely to follow that of his parents.

Every Senator signed the Patrick Leahy, Clair McGaskill, Obama, Clinton Senate Res 511 stating unequivocally that a natural born citizen has parents who are citizens - not one parent - and is born on US Soil (McCain's problem) http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200804/041008c.html Two dozen attempts at least have been made to amend Article II Section 1, and none have succeeded. The term-of-art has been defined and defined in supreme court cases and its origin cited unambiguously. Here is one of the earliest, the decision written by Chief Justice John Marshall in The Venus of 1816 http://supreme.justia.com/us/12/253/ By our (former!) constitution, Barack Obama, or whatever his legal name is, cannot be president if his father is not a citizen. He may have a birth certificate, but if the father is who Obama claims, Barak is not a constitutional president, and its a travesty that our judiciary, our legislators, and most of our legal scholars have not the courage to defend the our foundation as a republic.

[TXnMA]

He still could be a CIA KGB creation.

[machogirl]

I agree that they have been doing the work that the msm won’t. It’s just this guy, naranja was odd.

[Star Traveler]

You said — I agree that they have been doing the work that the msm won’t. It’s just this guy, naranja was odd.

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Yes, he was odd and I thought there were signs that he was a scammer, from the beginning. And you can see my many posts to that effect on the issue of whether he was a scammer or not. However, a lot of other posters really hammered me for being skeptical and saying it was fishy....

But, what WorldNetDaily was doing, was simply *reporting* the issue, and just giving the facts as they knew it at the time. They weren’t “buying into it” but were merely using the story to pump up their hits for their *real point* which is — “Where is the Birth Certificate?” ... LOL...

And I don’t see anything wrong with them reporting such things. And I was *really happy* when I saw that eBay scammer say that he was going to give it to WorldNetDaily — because I knew, then, the issue would be quickly exposed as him being a scammer, when he ended up refusing to give it to WorldNetDaily or verifying it or cooperating with anyone, about this document.

I believe the more rational thing for people to do in this Obama birth certificate issue is to get state laws passed requiring specific documentation or a candidate cannot be on the ballot. That’s something that would *get results* as opposed to be gullible about scammers on the Internet... :-)

[machogirl]

Absolutely. No one had the balls to run before that wasn’t a citizen. Now one possibly has, we need to address it.

[machogirl]

He’s a guy with pretty much a shallow history.

[roy57]

Don’t get me started on trying to get a copy of a birth certificate. Mine (from ‘57 in a small Texas town) has gone “missing”. I have tried til I’m blue in the face to get a copy. No luck.

God Bless,
Roy

[Labyrinthos]

Don’t get me started on trying to get a copy of a birth certificate. Mine (from ‘57 in a small Texas town) has gone “missing”. I have tried til I’m blue in the face to get a copy. No luck.

Maybe you don't exist.

[Jim Noble]

Anybody, including Obama (maybe especially Obama) can produce excellent papers that can pass any possible inspection.

In Mombasa, you can buy any birth certificate you want, in any name you want, and for relatively samll money.

This issue will be resolved by governments, or it won't be resolved at all. A "Kenya birth certificate" that is not validated by the Commonwealth Office in London is worthless. Similarly, a "Hawaii Birth Certificate" that is not confirmed or endorsed by the State of Hawaii is also worthless.

[roy57]

Oh I exist when it comes to taxes.... believe me!!!

[Red Steel]

I kept warning that it sure sounded like a scam and that I thought it was a scammer and it had all the earmarks of a scammer — and I got *hammered* because of me thinking he was a scammer... LOL...

Actually, you furthermore said, let World Net Daily check him out to find if he's a fraud.

Most of us took, if not all, took him with a big grain of salt. Giving him attention is not the same as drinking his koolaid until he put up. We may have hope this guy was telling the truth and some took that as bad for FR reputation, which is BS, and something Obots would say to spin it their way.

It played out the way it should.

[Star Traveler]

My post #45 was my position on the matter in regards to WorldNetDaily, and I voiced that same thing in those threads...

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And I don’t see anything wrong with them reporting such things. And I was *really happy* when I saw that eBay scammer say that he was going to give it to WorldNetDaily — because I knew, then, the issue would be quickly exposed as him being a scammer, when he ended up refusing to give it to WorldNetDaily or verifying it or cooperating with anyone, about this document.

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And that’s what happened, as I saw that the eBay scammer did not send it to WorldNetDaily. It was just like that other scammer, Chief Editor Korir, who said he was going to send his Michelle Obama phone tape about Obama being born in Kenya to Fox News. When that didn’t happen, it was obvious he was a scammer, too...

[Red Steel]

OK ST, you’re off the hook...this time. ;-)

And LoL!

[Star Traveler]

:-)

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

I noticed WND gave no credit to the Freepers who were the source of the info.
WND is the National Enquirer of current events.

[machogirl]

They are pretty good at tooting their own horn.

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

lmao!!!

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

I kept warning that it sure sounded like a scam and that I thought it was a scammer and it had all the earmarks of a scammer — and I got *hammered* because of me thinking he was a scammer... LOL...

Of course he would draw interest. He had a good line; good enough that I took him seriously for a while. Kept that rag WND going a helluva longer time than he kept most of us going. WND was a litle late to the party. What did they report that we did not dig up weeks ago? That is the beauty of not heeding 'warnings' such as yours. We get at the truth a lot faster.

And so what if other freepers wanted to believe him? So what if they desperately wanted it to be true even up until today? No sweat of my back. It is about getting the truth, not about being right.