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FReeper Book Club: Atlas Shrugged, This is John Galt Speaking
A Publius/Billthedrill Essay | 18 July 2009 | Publius & Billthedrill

Posted on 07/18/2009 7:32:31 AM PDT by Publius

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To: definitelynotaliberal
I'm rather fond of Crime and Punishment, and I read it every few years.

I'll tell you a little secret about how to read it. When you encounter a character, write down his or her full Russian name and the relationship to one or another character. That makes it all clear as you go on.

81 posted on 07/19/2009 10:24:54 AM PDT by Publius (Conservatives aren't always right. We're just right most of the time.)
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To: Publius

I think I could read it now. As I said, I’ve read the first chapter several times and on each occasion, I had no recollection of it. Now I do know what happens in the first chapter. I’ll try it again. Thanks.


82 posted on 07/19/2009 10:26:40 AM PDT by definitelynotaliberal (Sarah Palin - It's what happens when you attempt to bikini wax a bear.)
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To: Publius

I’ve enjoyed this entire project. I’m looking forward to the discussion of the Federalist Papers.

Please add me to your ping list.

Thanks!


83 posted on 07/19/2009 12:17:07 PM PDT by Texas Mulerider
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To: MrsPatriot
Laws carry with them force.

The U.S. Constitution limits the kinds of laws which may be enacted by the central government, but within those bounds the power to enforce them is granted, and it is not a power to merely ask for voluntary compliance.

Likewise state constitutions, and down the line.

Derived by consent of the governed, but force nonetheless.

84 posted on 07/19/2009 12:34:14 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (He must fail.)
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To: Publius; Billthedrill

Then it is their loss, indeed.

Thank you both for a fine series — I have been looking forward to every Saturday since you began this most interesting and stimulating exercise!

I’ve mostly lurked, but feel vastly more enriched, despite the paucity of my comments. AS is one of my favorite books — I have read it numerous times since it was first published. Wore out my paperback copy to the point that my first ex-wife bought me a bound version. (Yes, I read it in High School in 1957! As did a number of my FRiends.)

Thanks to your hard work, I have a better insight into Ms. Rand and her philosophy. Not only that, her prescience re: the events of our day is stunning: scared me then and it scares me now. No wonder many Americans have a renewed interest in her writings and philosophy.

On another subject, you might consider dissecting Saul Alinsky’s works and thereby help all of us discover what our enemies are up to. His playbook seems to be mighty popular in Washington, DC right now.

HST, the Federalist Papers and the historical context thereof would also make for a most excellent exercise.


85 posted on 07/19/2009 12:41:03 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Publius; Billthedrill
Federalist Papers...

I like that idea, a lot. Second choice would be a contemporary work such as The 5,000 Year Leap.

Whatever comes next, I must again express my appreciation for the FR Book Club series. It has made much better what would have been a tedious read.

86 posted on 07/19/2009 1:46:23 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (He must fail.)
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To: MrsPatriot

Thank you for the very cogent and understandable explanation. I appreciate the new knowledge and also its tie in to the book.


87 posted on 07/19/2009 2:14:32 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: definitelynotaliberal; All

I’m really leaning toward the study of Progressives - because our govt is full of them and we need to know what they think and how they think - so we can stop them.

I’ve also found a paper titled “Principles of Progressive Politics” .. and it will curl your hair .. and as Glenn Beck says, “... make blood shoot right out of your eyes.”


88 posted on 07/19/2009 2:22:29 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Michael Yon: "The U.S. military is the most respected institution in Iraq.")
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To: Publius

Let me remind everyone on this thread of something. The second amendment is still in effect. If you allow yourself to be sold into slavery while still armed then you deserve it.


89 posted on 07/19/2009 2:32:05 PM PDT by calex59 (I, me, myself, am actually Jim Thompson)
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To: Publius
Bttt.

5.56mm

90 posted on 07/19/2009 3:01:51 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Publius; Billthedrill

Future non-fiction discussions: “Peter the Great” or “Dreadnought,” both by Robert Massey.

William Shirer’s classic “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.” Brilliant history and a lot of parallels to the current direction of our country.

Fiction: Robert Heinlein’s “The Moon is a Harsh Mistress,” “Time Enough for Love,” “The Past Through Tomorrow.”

For some lengthy but great literature: Victor Hugo’s “Les Miserable.”


91 posted on 07/19/2009 3:27:45 PM PDT by stylin_geek (Greed and envy is used by our political class to exploit the rich and poor.)
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To: Publius
I first read AS in Junior High. I got an initial F on a book report I did on the book because the teacher thought I'd merely read the dust cover. This book has had a profound influence on my life.

I write, both for reading and for the spoken word. This speech was designed to be read, not spoken.

92 posted on 07/19/2009 11:21:40 PM PDT by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops by accusing them of war crimes.)
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To: Moonman62
Why do supposedly intelligent, independent people need a book written by a nasty feminist to tell them what to do?

That's pretty funny. Ayn and the feminists were bitter enemies.

93 posted on 07/20/2009 5:55:01 PM PDT by TradicalRC (Conservatism is primarily a Christian movement.)
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To: MrsPatriot

She was a huge fan of Aristotle (as the three divisions of the book imply) and the skeleton in her closet was St. Thomas Aquinas. She was actually going to have a character in the book called Father Amadeus but her contempt for religion nixed it.


94 posted on 07/20/2009 6:01:34 PM PDT by TradicalRC (Conservatism is primarily a Christian movement.)
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To: TradicalRC

My guess is they weren’t mean and nasty enough for her.


95 posted on 07/20/2009 6:08:03 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Billthedrill

Modern Times by Paul Johnson, The Law by Bastiat, Witness by Whitakker Chambers, Reflections on the Revolution in France by Edmund Burke, The Conservative Mind by Russell Kirk and (if you could possibly find it) Conservatism from John Adams to Churchill by Peter Viereck. (Just MHO.)


96 posted on 07/20/2009 6:20:15 PM PDT by TradicalRC (Conservatism is primarily a Christian movement.)
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To: stylin_geek

Or the short story Harrison Bergeron by Kurt Vonnegut.


97 posted on 07/20/2009 6:22:18 PM PDT by TradicalRC (Conservatism is primarily a Christian movement.)
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To: Moonman62

She was a self-described man-worshipper and held them in contempt for their collectivist view of women.


98 posted on 07/20/2009 6:23:46 PM PDT by TradicalRC (Conservatism is primarily a Christian movement.)
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To: TradicalRC

She was a real creep. She told her husband in front of others that she was going to have an affair with one of his friends, and there was nothing he could do about it. She did it, too.


99 posted on 07/20/2009 6:47:46 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: TradicalRC
Outstanding list! Any of the first five would be a study in itself. I re-read the last chapter of Witness on the day the Soviet Union fell. I still get goosebumps remembering that. Two months from now I get to tell the story.

Publius is chuckling - he knows I have a special weakness for Burke. It wouldn't be easy breaking that one up into sections but it'd be fun. I'm thinking at last I'd have the last word against Conor Cruise O'Brien...well, because he's been dead for the last eight months... ;-)

100 posted on 07/20/2009 6:56:17 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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