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Does It Make Sense to Pay Off Your Mortgage?
Townhall.com ^ | July 15, 2009 | Carrie Schwab Pomeroy

Posted on 07/15/2009 6:48:43 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: silverleaf
Her interest raate on her mortage would suggest that her mortage is not that old and, therefore was not that large even if were a fifteen year mortage or payments were being made every two weeks.

However, even assuming a $300000 mortage the payments would be nowhere near your figures. Math first finance afterwards?

81 posted on 07/15/2009 8:18:38 AM PDT by monocle
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To: CSM

Oh, OK. Sorry if I was touchy.


82 posted on 07/15/2009 8:26:48 AM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: Bull Man

That will work as long as you have some guaranteed source of cheap dollars in the future. If you are relying on savings to generate those cheap dollars, remember that your savings base relatively shrinks with inflation. The economy at that time might not employ you, so living off your savings will get rid of them faster then.


83 posted on 07/15/2009 8:27:34 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("Do you call it 'unsound method'?" "No method at all," I murmured.)
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To: MrEdd
On the other hand, if the currency does indeed collapse in the classic Wiemar fashion under O’bungler, and you have paper saying you own your house for a given amount of the now worthless script - then you get your home for what you already have in it basically....Not that that will be a huge comfort.

It IS something....

84 posted on 07/15/2009 8:28:05 AM PDT by madison10
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To: dashing doofus

I understand the inflationary aspects of paying a mortgage with future dollars of less value. However, with todays environment involving the government cancelling and re-writing existing contracts, ala GM and Chrysler bondholders, I can see them doing the same for existing mortgages with interst rates below the rate of inflation.

They, the government, have shown they will obviously protect and enhance the coffers of the financial industry.

I know, I know, people would squeal and raise heck, but look what they have done in just six months. Just imagine, monthly mortgage payments going from a thousand bucks @ 5% to fifteen hundred @ 8%. Wow, an adjustable rate mortgage you didn’t sign up for. All for the good of the economy to prevent its collapse. Now where have we heard that before?


85 posted on 07/15/2009 8:30:24 AM PDT by biff
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To: CIB-173RDABN

If you buy in at 270.00 an ounce and cash out at 980.00 an ounce that’s called a profit.


86 posted on 07/15/2009 8:33:30 AM PDT by taxtruth
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To: fso301
Speaking from personal experience, when you have the money to pay off the house, do it.

Wise advice that I wish I would have heeded ten years ago...but ten years ago they were saying to NOT pay it off because of the interest deduction. *sigh*

Then again who would have thought we were heading for a CommieNation that was out to grab all the money as fast as possible?

87 posted on 07/15/2009 8:33:35 AM PDT by madison10
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To: Still Thinking

I am a conservative, I do not believe in social engineering with taxes. Maybe liberals and republicans do.


88 posted on 07/15/2009 8:44:53 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat

I don’t think it was ever a social engineering thing in the first place. Perhaps if mortgage interest were singled out for deductibility you’d have a point, but that wasn’t the case. I believe the thinking was that a loan was a zero value paper transaction and logically shouldn’t be producing taxes at all. Thus if interest income was going to be taxable, revenue neutrality would require that payment of interest be deductible. That makes more sense to me than having both interest receipts and payments off books. Obviously, having it on books when it generates a tax bill and off books when it would be deductible is a government scam to give those creeps more of OUR money.


89 posted on 07/15/2009 8:50:36 AM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: Travis T. OJustice
Social engineering is a concept in political science that refers to efforts to influence popular attitudes and social behavior on a large scale, whether by governments or private groups.

Maybe the definition will help.

90 posted on 07/15/2009 8:51:07 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat

Cute, but would tyou care to post something relevant next time to back up your socialist assertions?


91 posted on 07/15/2009 8:52:50 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: Travis T. OJustice
Lets see, I'm against social engineering, and that is a socialist assertion. Do you read right to left???
92 posted on 07/15/2009 8:55:17 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: silverleaf

Better than you deserve!

The other advantage of paying off your home is that the income you need from that nest egg in order to live goes down dramatically, meaning you don’t have to make more interest on the nest egg to offset the interest you pay on the mortgage.


93 posted on 07/15/2009 8:55:45 AM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: org.whodat

Duh, i know what social engineering is. It doesn’t apply to your post, so how about answering my original question? It would be a first, as you really suck at answering tough questions like “Will you back up your assertions?”


94 posted on 07/15/2009 8:58:15 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: org.whodat

OK, i’ll be completely fair, and retract the “socialist” comment and replace it with “anti-capitalist”.


95 posted on 07/15/2009 8:59:07 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: Still Thinking

With your line of thinking unearned appreciation would also be taxable. My thinking is earning of interest off of secured government bank insured savings should not be taxable. What is the treatment under the fair tax plan???http://www.usnews.com/blogs/the-home-front/2009/02/25/5-beefs-with-the-home-mortgage-interest-deduction.html


96 posted on 07/15/2009 9:02:42 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Travis T. OJustice

No with you it is all ways your BS statement.


97 posted on 07/15/2009 9:03:34 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Kaslin

IMO, pay off the mortgage and put her C/D in a money market instead.


98 posted on 07/15/2009 9:07:22 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Drumbo

Pinging not for the original article, but for the discussion that follows.

An ardent desire to pay off my mortgage with my 401K is only cooled by the notion of the tax bracket+penalties I would incure. But oh dayyum how I wanna shrug off the worry of defaulting due to reduced income and impending future tax increases.

I will try to hold out till at least next year, when the kissoff payments from my former employer can’t affect 2010’s income filing.


99 posted on 07/15/2009 9:21:16 AM PDT by Titan Magroyne ("Drill now drill hard drill often and give old Gaia a cigarette afterwards she deserves it." HerrBlu)
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To: silverleaf
Like it makes sense to spend $2000 a month to get a $500 a month tax deduction

It could, in some cases. First, the mortgage deduction brings down the overall interest rate paid. And when investing, the profit is taxed and that brings down the percent gain made. Those two final numbers should be compared, not the original numbers.

It's not a one size fits all question.

For instance, we have a cabin paid for. But I'm going to go get a mortgage on it because the housing market (IMO) is not coming back any time soon and I'd rather have some cash to walk away with if 1) a job loss means we have to leave the area or 2) that remote rural area becomes economically depressed and houses don't sell. Both have happened in the past and could happen again.

So for anyone to tell someone else how to handle their financial lives without taking into account all the various differences in their situation is pretty arrogant and short-sighted. I'm not saying you're doing this, silverleaf. Not at all! But I'm sure there will a couple on this thread that will do so!
100 posted on 07/15/2009 9:22:46 AM PDT by CottonBall
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